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Originally Posted by devo22

it's the simple fact that players usually run 10 or 11 km per game these days. Would you say that was the same during the 70s or 80s? Go back and watch one of those games and tell me those players logged more than half of that. You obviously love to reminisce about the good old times and you're obviously frustrated with a perceived softness of the modern game, and that's fine. I'd agree with a lot of that. But let's not act like today's game isn't a lot faster.

Spare me the putting words into my mouths bit.

Look at your argument. You're the one that's actually frustrated with the softness of the modern game calling for them to be more coddled. I actually feel the modern player is managing just fine.

How do you equate that pointing out the facts that they played more games in worse conditions in days gone by as reminiscing about the good old days. It's a simple fact. They played more days in worse conditions.

Just as it is a fact that like pretty much every other game on the planet it is faster now than it was then. No argument there. But it's also a fact that the modern athlete is more set up for increased performance than days gone by due to increased research and resources in the form of nutrition, body management (pre/post massages), exercise techniques etc. And as mentioned the playing surface is dramatically different. They are more managed.

Originally Posted by devo22

the games are nothing new, but it's the same amount of games in a much shorter season. The league started a full month later than normal. Now you're entitled to your opinion that today's footballers are wimps, but with the amount of games, it's no wonder that injuries pile up and the quality of the games suffers.

Again, refrain from putting words into my mouth that I haven't said. Where have I implied that "today's footballers are wimps"? I'm actually arguing the opposite against the likes of yourself that are suggesting they are as the schedule is too tough for them.

Originally Posted by devo22

And again, I know money trumps logic and therefore it was clear that nothing was going to change, even for just one year (which is all I'd ask for). But I understand the frustration of players and managers because I also think the schedule is ridiculous this season. It's easier to demand those wimps to just man up though, of course, because things used to be so much harder, right?

See, there you go again.

You're whining that the season is too tough for the players whilst implying that I'm the one that is insinuating they're wimps.
All I'm saying is stop being all knee jerky and crying about it. They'll be fine. Is there evidence that the teams that are playing in Europe are picking up more injuries than those that aren't?