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Originally Posted by #-3
The Snoke one had nothing to do with the nameless guys, they were just props. It was about the pull between light and dark for Kylo. The give you all the advanced warning and Dramatic tension for him helping Rey so you expect it. Then they blindside you with the conversation at the end, she turns to him says we did it, now lets go save the day, and he says to her No that's not this story. it was completely designed to mirror RotJ when vader was torn chose to fight for the darkside and in the end turned to Luke and said No actually I will fight with you.
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Sure, but to me there was less then zero suspense to it. As soon as Snoke died, I was like Ren is going to screw over Rey and try to bring her to the darkside, or the third movie will be about a galaxy at peace and Rey and Ren raising space bunnies.
There was some neat technique in the fight, but again here's the problem. Force users are faster and have precognition. So realistically those space troopers should have been dead within two seconds, they should have literally been the batttle droids of this movie.
I mean they missed so many things. The Knights of Ren, the students that left the burning academy with Ren. Instead the Knights of Ren became the Phasma of the third movie and those lost jedi that should have been either the knights of Ren or cool dark side acolytes to fight as semi bad asses were non existent.
Its just like the kid with the broom at the end of TLJ, why the hell did they bother with it, besides oh it looked cool, hope.
I got back to the incoherence of the story line of the sequels, and that Rian and JJ had entirely different stories in their mind and some idiot signed off on a script for the second movie that blew up the story line from the first, and forced a incredibly patchworked third movie.
I mean for me honestly the best scene in that second movie was the hyperspace ramming of Snoke's Ship. But then I'm sitting there going, this can't be new science in a GFFA, why didn't the rebels load up a cruiser or 2 with explosives and put a single pilot in each ship, and then hyperspace them right at the Death Star. It would have cost them less lives in the long run, and the Emperor probably wouldn't have commissioned a new death star because it wouldn't have been a fluke.
I know I know story telling and the miraculous shot by Luke with the Force.
I mean I even said that the Prequels had some serious warts to them. But at least there was a coherent story line, and at least the characters were consistent throughout those three movies.
Its pretty much a fact that Jar Jar was a tremendously annoying and stupid character in the first movie, destroyed the republic in the second movie, and had 2 seconds of screen time in the third movie. But in the ST, Rian was the Jar Jar Binks. He wasn't there in the first one, destroyed the trilogy in the second one, and though he wasn't there in the third one, they spent the whole movie trying to patchwork fix his blunders and ended up creating a wildly different version of Palpatine that made him look like a schmuck.