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Originally posted by Bring_Back_Shantz@Dec 9 2004, 08:35 PM
As far as the priest goes, as far as he is concerned, he cannot marry two gay people, anymore than he can fly, why? Because as far as the church is concerned marriage is only between a man and a woman. Forcing a priest to do it would be just as descriminatory as me not fixing someone's car because he is black. No where in the bible (or anything the pope has said) does it preclude gay people from going to church, or does it say that catholics can't marry non catholics (using catholic as an example), but it does have a pretty clear set of rules for marriage, so saying they include them in their services isn't a valid arguement.
You ask me to build a brick house out of wood, and I can't do it regardless of whether you are black, white, gay, straight, or if I even care if you are. You can't build a brick house out of wood. Priests can't build a catholic marriage out of two men, or two women, because in either case they are missing a vital component. Is that right in the moral sense, some say yes, some say no, but the priest is definately saying yes, and making him do it would be just as illigal as anything you have put forth.
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"No where in the bible (or anything the pope has said) does it preclude gay people from going to church, or does it say that catholics can't marry non catholics (using catholic as an example), but it does have a pretty clear set of rules for marriage"
The penalty for homosexuality is excomunication from the faith - those that have professed to a homosexual lifestyle are barred from the faith (including services in church) and the Bible commands Jews not to marry non-Jews or face the same penalty.
The Catholic Church does have a clear set of rules for marriage - they include catholics can't marry non catholics.
"Priests can't build a catholic marriage out of two men, or two women"
I think there are some gay couples and a few "Progressive" clergy who would dissagree with you there.
I'm just saying that the argument is possible. If the activist gay couple could prove that the clergyperson has been flexible in his beliefs and practices in the past, then the court may say that he/she must be flexible now