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Originally Posted by Envitro
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Apologies in advance for the long post. I find the reactions to these videos kind of funny in a very sad way. I don't expect everyone to watch them, Maher is often insufferable and the Hill's reliance on clickbait trash makes it hard to want to invest the time, but if you actually do watch the two videos, they are illuminating. Both videos are right. Common sense is required, and this is not the fault of the left or the AOC types.
In terms of what Maher is saying, there is nothing quite as grating as disingenuine posturing or victimization. Some of the examples he posits aren't fair, and I disagree with including them, but some of them can't be ignored. This idea that to be "woke" or whatever you have to fall on the sword of every issue and be the party of every single issue, and every single person has to be perfect at all times, is bogus. And as someone who does care about social issues, and has a personal stake in some of them, and does believe in the greater goals they can achieve, it's honestly maddening to read some of the stuff people lump in with this issues, because they inadvertently make the real issues look completely silly and unpressing. Take the "latinx" thing for example. 90% of people I've ever seen write the word were white. And of the few that were actually "latinx," I would categorise them as "deeply far left." To the point where you have to ask, who is this serving? Certainly not people as a whole. If you're white, and you use the word, honestly ask yourself who told you it was the right word to use. And the head kissing article was ridiculous on the deepest level. Actual victims of sexual assault are out there, actual predators are out there, people are really dealing with these things in ways you'll never know about, and ways that have been made public (like some of the more horrific stories coming out of Hollywood, for example). But someone kissed your head and it shook you? You wrote an entire article casting Biden as some sort of questionable actor because of a head kiss? Aziz Ansari gets called out for a bad date? Jesus christ, if these people only knew what these actual issues were like, how they felt, or actually knew someone who experienced them, they would feel embarrassed thinking "this is my story and I'm here to tell about it." It's so frustrating. It's down to common sense and focusing on real issues and the real things that surround them. Not everyone needs their voice heard when they're going to say something stupid, and not every voice needs to be championed as a cause within itself. There ARE issues like that, MANY of them, and the reliance on nonsense dilutes it to the point where if you dare talk about a real issue, you get called an SJW or a snowflake, because people see the nonsense, and they lump it all in together.
And I will say that while broad support on any issue is appreciated, words mean very little. Making sure you use the right words or say you're in favour of the right things is cool, and all, but if you haven't done the work, you haven't done the work, and if you actually have it becomes pretty obvious. You can always tell the difference between someone who is acting a certain way because they heard it's the right way to act, and acting that way because they put in the time to learn why and believe it to be true.
On the flip side, this is not the fault of the left, nor is it the fault of left wing issues. Corruption and corporate issues matter, and even in states the Democrats lost, some of these crazy "left wing socialist" policies were voted in FAVOUR. Most people are of the working class, most people have issues that directly impact them, they will support policies that address these issues in real and sensible ways. Fake posturing does not accomplish that. Corruption and doing more for corporations than the people will not serve you. The Democrats didn't do as well as they hoped because they didn't listen. It's not about saying you support every single social cause and taking a knee. Grow up. It's about doing something meaningful for the people who are actually impacted by those issues, and that can only be achieved by actually LISTENING. And if you listen, and you're a good, sensible person to begin with, you will come up with good, sensible answers that make a difference. The elites in the Democratic party care more about looking a certain way than acting a certain way, and that's on them.