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Originally Posted by Ped
Paul Fenton was run out of Minnesota because he was a dick as a boss, iirc.
The problem with fans judging trades it that a lot of fans make an immediate snap judgement, sometimes based on erroneous or outdated information, and that impression stays in their mind.
Remember how thrilled Leafs fans were to get Phaneuf and Giguere on the same day? Flames and Ducks fans knew both were in decline. Leafs fans didn't.
Trades need to be judged later, often years later, but that's no fun. That's why everyone declares winners and losers on deadline day, even though it's really impossible too.
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Phaneuf was not on a decline. He had productive years in Toronto, rest of that leafs team sucked. That was and will remain a terrible trade by Sutter.
Giguere was on a decline and had lost his job Hiller. Not like Leafs paid much to get him.
As far as erroneous and outdated information, disagree. It's not like fans are blind. They can see how and the what players have done in the last few years and how project to be. It's not like GMs/pro scouts are sitting there with a crystal ball.
If anything Its the teams with outdated information on players. You often hear how a GM had been after a player for 2-3 years and finally got him. Or the trade discussion started a year ago and we came to terms. In todays age players decline rapidly yet the GM who saw a good showing at least a year back was still after the guy.
The general consensus amongst fan for the most part if same and its not wrong. Lindholm is great, Tkachuk is great, Gio on decline, Monahan is 2nd line C etc. etc.
Rarely you get a debatable player (usually a prospect who hasnt made it but shows some glimpses) like Bennett for example, half think he needs top 6 minutes with good players the other half thinks he's a 3rd/4th liner, and imo when its all set and done he'll be 2nd/3rd line tweener.
I have to agree with the person who said pro scouting is brutal in the NHL. If you follow a player for multiple games and only focus on him and you still screw up then you're not good at your job at all.