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Old 11-05-2020, 07:35 AM   #124
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Really have to jump all over these.
  • a) The economy: Trump had the economy doing very well, and they don't have the same confidence in Biden.

Which is really dumb. Implemented policy is not felt for two years after a President takes or leaves office. The great economy was a result of Obama policy. The bottom falling out was a result of Trump policy. Trump strolled into the White House and rode the coat tails of Obama's policy and took credit for stuff he did nothing to encourage. He then went and put in place a tax policy that was nothing but a raiding of the Treasury by the rich. That's when the economy went sideways because there was no money in the system to pay for things, because the rich people just took it all out, like they always do. Democrats spurn on good economies. Republicans spend their way into the bad ones. This has been consistent since the 70s.
  • b) Taxes: Biden will probably increase them and who wants to pay more?

Do your friends make more than $400K? Because those are the ones that are going to experience the tax increase.
  • c) Trade: Trump has talked tough on trade and worked hard so that the US isn't taken advantage of. Biden would be much softer.

WTF? Trump has been a disaster on trade. Tariffs have been his biggest tool and that has crushed industry in the United States. My god people are dense.
  • d) The state of the Democrats: There is a very leftist, socialist element in the democratic party and they should be far away from power.

Such a tired stupid talking point. That leftist/socialist movement is five people out of a party of 280ish people. And those people are all junior members. They have no influence or sway. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would be running against Trump right now. There is no leftist/socialist movement. The only socialism that exists in the United States is corporate socialism and the poor paying for the mistakes of the rich and the corporations. Maybe ask your friends when the last time they as individuals got a bailout, and how much that was? Because Wall Street, the banks, the airlines, the car industry, the fossil fuel industry, and so on have been gifted TRILLIONS in bailouts. Yeah, socialism is a real big fear in this country.

I know you're only the messenger Slava, but holy smokes there are a lot of people out there who don't get it.
The thing is, I've said this before and I'll say it again, you don't change feelings with facts.

While everything you state is factually correct, to most it doesn't feel correct.

A) The Republicans are the ones that are supposed to be good for the economy, that feels right. It doesn't matter that a century of facts demonstrates the exact opposite.

B) Biden says that he'll raise taxes on those making over $400,000. But I don't want to pay more taxes, and if he's gonna raise it on his elitist buddies what's he gonna do for me? I feel like less taxes is always better, no matter what.

C) Isn't Trump the deal maker? He has that book, "The Art of the Deal" he's making deals all the time, his hats are made in China, so I feel like he takes advantage of China. Trump is good for trade, why else would he build golf courses all over the world?

D) I feel like socialism is evil, I mean look at Cuba and Venezuela. Democrats are socialist and therefore evil. Can't have that. If the opposite of evil is good, then Trump must be good!

Now, I don't agree with any of that, but 65+ million Americans do. Showing them the facts isn't going to do a tinker damn. You need to make them feel like you're right, you need to make them feel like you're there for them, you need to make them feel like you're on their side.

Trump is phenomenal at doing that. From what I've seen Biden is likely better at it 1 on 1 which is impressive, however he doesn't play as well a crowd.

Elections are won and lost on feelings. Nothing more.
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