[Slava]

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Originally Posted by Slava

Really have to jump all over these.



Which is really dumb. Implemented policy is not felt for two years after a President takes or leaves office. The great economy was a result of Obama policy. The bottom falling out was a result of Trump policy. Trump strolled into the White House and rode the coat tails of Obama's policy and took credit for stuff he did nothing to encourage. He then went and put in place a tax policy that was nothing but a raiding of the Treasury by the rich. That's when the economy went sideways because there was no money in the system to pay for things, because the rich people just took it all out, like they always do. Democrats spurn on good economies. Republicans spend their way into the bad ones. This has been consistent since the 70s.



Do your friends make more than $400K? Because those are the ones that are going to experience the tax increase.



WTF? Trump has been a disaster on trade. Tariffs have been his biggest tool and that has crushed industry in the United States. My god people are dense.



Such a tired stupid talking point. That leftist/socialist movement is five people out of a party of 280ish people. And those people are all junior members. They have no influence or sway. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would be running against Trump right now. There is no leftist/socialist movement. The only socialism that exists in the United States is corporate socialism and the poor paying for the mistakes of the rich and the corporations. Maybe ask your friends when the last time they as individuals got a bailout, and how much that was? Because Wall Street, the banks, the airlines, the car industry, the fossil fuel industry, and so on have been gifted TRILLIONS in bailouts. Yeah, socialism is a real big fear in this country.

I know you're only the messenger Slava, but holy smokes there are a lot of people out there who don't get it.

I’m not addressing these, because they’re not my points. I am just talking about what I’ve heard as to why people would vote (or are voting) for Trump.

On a personal scale, I’d vote grudgingly for Biden. Not because I think he’s amazing, he’s just less terrible. But my rationale and the importance of issues to me is completely different from the list I put (although economy is critical to me and I don’t share the same concerns in that vein as the Trump supporters I have talked to).