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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
That's a fair point, actually. The thing is that frequently people who claim we aren't the cause are doing so as an argument against taking any action at all. And if you think about it, if we aren't a primary cause of climate change, it stands to reason that not much that we do will help. But you're right that there are a range of opinions on that point.
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Frequently? I doubt it. You may run across a few that are severely resistant to doing anything, but I doubt any of them would not want our air cleaned up... just not at any cost.
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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
I was specifically responding to another poster's prediction of dire economic consequences is ANY action were taken (even the hypothetical Iowa_Flames_Fan environmental program!  ) |
That's not even the case...
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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor
I agree that we all need to consume less and help the environment more. I think almost all people agree with that. What we don't need to do is go all crazy following these domes day sayers and jump on board a flawed agreement like Kyoto.
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Far be it from me to defend Jolinar, but you both are jumping to conclusions about the other that aren't true. His conclusions about you are much easier to refute (and have been done before), which is why I'm directing this at you.. and Hulkrogan.. and all the others who want to assume what he's thinking.
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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
What worries me is the possibility that the passage of Kyoto will lead to a belief that this issue is done and over with, when what's needed is long-term change in the way that we consume energy.
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This sounds exactly like what the Liberals did after they signed onto the agreement however many years ago. I will admit that they tried a few initiatives, but with very limited success. Now they want to bring it back? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.