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Old 10-31-2020, 05:45 PM   #4082
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Because Bennett has most certainly been effective the only time he was given 2nd line minutes (2015-16).

Bennett has never so much as received an opportunity as a second line centre, so it's arguing a false premise. Of course he hasn't produced a ton centering guys like Brouwer, Chiasson, Bouma, and Lazar - but that's a role I'm not sure anyone would realistically be expected to produce a lot outside of hot streaks.



I mean, this is wrong.

If it weren't:

-Someone like Bob Hartley would not have compared him to Peter Forsberg following his D+1 year

-Someone like Bob Hartley would not have excitededly mentioned he was comfortable matching Bennett up to guys like Anze Kopitar down the middle following his D+2 year (just before we fired him)

-Someone like Brad Treliving would not have isolated his strong play down the middle following his D+3 year playoffs

-Someone like Glen Gulutzan would not have compared the player's ostensible development curve to Tyler Seguin following his D+3 year

-Someone like Geoff Ward would not have kept him steady at centre in the top 9 during his D+7 year playoffs, along with playing (and producing) on his #1PP unit in Matthew Tkachuk's absense, especially when he had a productive and healthy Derek Ryan available

-Someone like Craig Conroy would not insist that the player has always been viewed by the organization as a centre following his D+7 year.

- He would not be one of the better shot generators, chance generators, and shot assist generators on this roster

I mean, there's a lot of video evidence of Bennett showing strong IQ, once you look past the occasional failed toedrag (and he's far from the only player to botch toedrags)



This is simply an unsubstantiated claim. The player had his least effective year when played less, in fact in Transplant99's own words was outproduced by Zac Rinaldo when played less. He has his most effective year when played more.



This is false, considering he has been successfully used on the PK in the past.



And yet another poor take, considering he was literally, and productively playing top line PP in this year's playoffs after Tkachuk's injury. He can play top line PP. Perhaps the Flames don't have a niche for him on their PP, but that's probably because of the Flames' highly skilled, left-shot-heavy top six forward group.

If he can't play top line PP, why was he selected to play top line PP in the most important games of the year?


Reality must really suck for you guys that think hockey is played on a spread sheet.

5 full seasons....4 different coaches...multiple multiple line mates......its all their fault.


Just bizarre that a CAREER 28 point a season guy has entirely been misused and mishandled for 5 seasons now. That is literally an Oiler fan kind of suggestion......hmmm.

Maybe the Flames should bring Hartley back then?

I mean....that is a massive DERP!


Anyone that thinks Sam fracking Bennett has anything but average hockey IQ is lying to themselves or simply does not understand what that means...which would explain a lot.

I reallllllly want the guy to succeed...i am a fan of this team after all, but his "development" has not been limited by anyone except Sam Bennett and his choices while on the ice. Over and over and over again.

Then there is the "he will be better with better line mates" crap....well no #### sherlock....EVERY guy that has ever played in the NHL would be better with better line mates. Just the strangest and stupidest thing to defend him with.

The Flames have graduated player after player after player to the show the last 6 years...but somehow he isnt one of them because its the organizations fault. How does that make a lick of sense?

Anyhow...Sam Bennett ....#1 C...cannot be traded cause no way you will get back a better player....he is about to break out......he had a good 10 games after a 3 month break......yadda freaking yadda. My goodness .


As for the bolded....he was 11th on the club, 9th among F's for PP TOI per game on the playoffs...which is what I'm assuming what you mean? Though with you and whatever stats you feel like rolling out, I honestly have no idea.

LOL..........the legend of Bennett is alive and growing exponentially. Happens every single off season.
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