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Old 10-29-2020, 11:54 AM   #1212
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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger View Post
The bathroom is always the first one that comes to mind, as ever (and noted a couple other places). Especially if it's a public bathroom, as they don't know who else is in there (unless they are attending the bathroom as a call to remove someone, of course).

When meeting with a CI

When meeting with an anonymous tip giver (or one who wishes to remain anonymous)

When a person isn't fully clothed (for whatever reason) should they be videoed?

Victim interviews are also a tricky area. Some could argue that that is a very good time for a camera (I'm on the fence, personally) but what if the victim refuses?

Can someone interacting with the police refuse to do so if they don't want to be recorded? Especially in their own house, for instance? Or on private property?

One concern folks don't think about (that I get a lot, as a 911 operator) is how good is the mic on the camera? How much can it 'catch' in how wide an area around the officer and is that actionable? Especially if the folks talking don't know they are being recorded.

Should it be on when dealing with a child sexual assault victim?

Most of the known issues around 24/7 cameras stem around the thorny issue of privacy. There is a lot of back and forth legal wrangling between body cameras and FOIP and the collection of private data (such as the inside of ones home) to begin with.

Can the videos be FOIP requested? Imagine one domestic partner being able to foip the body cam footage of the police's on-scene interview with their partner, so they know exactly what was said.

Those are the situations I can think of, off the top of my head.

And I've heard the "body cam's should be live-streamed' argument before, which just literally made me laugh out loud. If shows like "Live PD", "Border Security" and "COPS" can get into privacy related lawsuits/issues, a live-stream would be a gongshow of trouble.

To the best of my knowledge (and again, I don't know CPS exact policy or how it's enacted here) the body cam is allowed to be off if you are not responding to a call for service. There seems to be some flexibility about driving there, but I'm given to understand that before you interact with the person(s) involved in the call, the camera is supposed to be on. Again though, not an officer, and don't know the exact policy or any of the nuance around it.
Hospitals are also a big one.

Police tactics are another.

Private conversations while not engaging with the public is another.

A couple of points about bodycams:
- The vast majority (if not all) of frontline members have bodycams.
- Any and all interactions with the public are to be recorded.
- All vides are automatically uploaded to a cloud and cannot be altered.
- Access to the videos is strictly controlled. Only the member who owns the bodycam and officers investigating complaints can review video (permission can be given to others by the owner).
- video is only reviewed if a complaint is received.
- bodycams have a limited field of view and must be treated as such.
- bodycams running 24/7 are impractical for reasons already touched upon. However, the massive amount of storage needed would make it financially impossible (defund though right?).

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