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Originally Posted by Vinny01
I really don’t get this line of thinking. How terrible are teams supposed to be before they can come out of a rebuild?
Flames started rebuilding in 2013 and currently have 5 players picked in the top 6 in the 4 drafts between 2013-2016.
Looking at the roster as it is right now
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Mangipane
Dube-Bennett-Lucic
Rindalo-Ryan-Robinson
Gawdin
Giordano-Andersson
Hanifin-Tanev
Valimaki-Kylington
Mackey
Markstrom
Rittich
Of that current team 11 of 22 skaters were drafted by the team (13 if you include Gio and Rittich who were signed as prospects and developed by the org)
Giving up the boatload of picks for Hamonic was a big mistake but I think trading a mid 1st and 2 2nds for a former top 10 pick who just scored 40pts as a 21 year old Dman is a great trade.
I guess I don’t get this shortcut comment. What team really sucked forever and won something. Edmonton, Florida, Arizona, Buffalo still wandering in the dessert.
Signing an elite goalie in his prime is not a short cut it is filling a need with cap space and luckily the Flames had the flexibility to do it
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The price for the bolded is that 2017-2019 = 3 picks in the top 100 (Valimaki, Pelletier, and 88OA Nikolaev).
Picking 5x top 100 this year helps, but we are still well under the 4 year expectations:
1st rd: 3/4
2nd rd: 1/4
3rd rd: 3/4
total = 7/12
Even if we include 4th rd: 6/4, we're still well under at 13/16.
Even if everything goes really well, we're probably facing a gap of ELC support to help keep things rolling.
As for the shortcuts, it's been beaten to death (under various terms), but you can draw a dotted line from chasing the lineup that [they thought] gave them the best chance to win on opening night in October 2015 to Lucic's $5.25M cap hit on this team in the '22-23 season (as opposed to focusing on players who might actually contribute to the future - an assessment that was proven 100% incorrect in both the short and long-term).
Too many other examples to list right now. I'm not saying you can't make trades or sign UFAs...but you shouldn't do it this much.