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Originally Posted by New Era
In your very Canadian perspective you're being pragmatic. In an American context you're talking nonsensical gibberish.
Yes, they have a very real impact. If there is a broad rejection of Trumpism with even traditional red states like Texas, Arizona, and Georgia going purple or blue, that is a huge message being sent to Washington and the rest of the nation. When the House, the Senate, and the Presidency has the potential to swing in one election, that is a complete and total rejection of Trumpism. But if it remains close, because some people think their little protest vote means something, that is when we have the potential for Trumpism to survive. That is a reasonable and practical effect, and that only happens if people pull their heads out of their asses and understand how the ####ing system works.
If Texas flips, everything changes. To red states, that would be like the blue states watching California go red. When the largest block of votes that a party relies upon all of a sudden rejects their politics and votes for the other party, that is how change happens. That is a massive message to Republicans that they need to significantly alter their course or be lost for ever. That is how change works in this country. We don't have third parties where coalitions can be built and political pressure applied to make deals happen. This is a binary system and you have to understand how to make change in a binary system. You don't do it by spoiling your ballot.
You just obliterated your own argument! "Win the house Seats, win the senate seats, win the governorship and the state houses. That will create opportunities for change." And how does voting for that protest candidate make any of those things happen? You don't do that by throwing away votes for parties or individuals who have no hope of winning. That is the strength and the weakness of the binary system we Americans have to suffer with. You vote only counts if it is for one of two candidates.
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I didn’t blow away my own arguments.
The election of the electoral college representatives to vote for the president is a separate election from the items I listed.
You understand that you don’t just vote democrat or republican in every single part of the ballot right? I mean there are states you can do that in with a single mark on a punch but you can always vote in every individual race and decide which candidate you are voting for based on the individual circumstances in that race.
It’s immaterial if Texas is Red by a point or blue by point. It has the exact same meaning for Trumpism. If a party becomes that Incompetent Texas is purple. That message is sent regardless of third party votes in the presidential election.