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Old 09-30-2020, 11:15 PM   #4914
CliffFletcher
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Probably off topic, but I find it so odd when working middle class, especially working poor defend, deflect, and explain away with mental gymnastics why the rich do what they do and how we should be thankful that in their infinite wisdom and kindness, they employ us plebs. It's like they cheer for the rich to remain uber rich, and regular folk should just be happy to live paycheck to paycheck driving a crappy car, living in a crappy apartment, and driving on crappy pothole filled roads.

How about we close tax loopholes, legal or otherwise, and have the uber rich pay their fair share? If we did that, we could probably lower taxes for people making less than $150k a year, and eliminate taxes for people making less than $50k a year. Perhaps have an overall happier society as a side benefit?
Taxing the uber-rich is everyone's fantasy. Who wouldn't want more government stuff without paying for it themselves? But how many countries have done it? Give me some real-world examples of this program you're advocating.

I can give real-world examples of the program I'm advocating:

Germany, the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark.

They have the kinds of egalitarian policies and strong public services that Canadians say they want. And they pay for them with higher taxes across the board than Canadians currently pay.

I guess the downside is they pay those high taxes. Though fair to say, they're more cohesive societies than we are. Like Americans, we want the best of everything, but we want someone else to pay for it.
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