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Old 09-30-2020, 10:18 AM   #8671
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18 View Post
Hamonic, Smith, Elliott trades were the ones that hurt. Moved assets for guys that were here for no more than 3 years, and who weren't pieces that really helped on the ice either.

Treliving has been in charge of 5 drafts here are his picks in each round.

1st Round: 3 picks (Hamilton trade was okay, Hamonic was bad)
2nd Round: 4 picks (None in the last three years)
3rd Round: 2 picks
4th Round: 6 picks
5th Round: 4 picks
6th Round: 5 picks
7th Rounds: 5 picks

So overall we should have made 35 picks under Treliving, and we've made 29.

And the problem is the picks we've moved are the high value picks in the first three rounds (only drafted 9 out of 15 under Treliving), and it's been worse the last three seasons.

Over the last three years we've had 2 first rounders, no second rounders, and 1 third rounder (3/9)...that's bleeding picks for sure.
Treliving has been in charge of 6 drafts. You are vastly overrrating the value of 3rd round picks.

Hamonic and Smith helped the Flames be a playoff team in 2019. So giving up a 3rd for Smith did not hurt. Eilliot helped us make the playoffs, so I'm not sure I would say it hurt all that much either. The Lazar trade was worse than either of those.

Also Treliving has successfully brought in top rated NCAA and European free agents on a consistent basis and they likely have similar values to 2nd and 3rd round picks, but like draft picks, they don't always pan out.
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