[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

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White Out 403 doesn't see this as "innocent Black couple shot at by police" but "known drug-dealing affiliate has warrant executed at residence."

I mean, I probably see this more as "the pointless war on drugs claims another victim". But I agree with your first part as I don't view this as a racial execution.

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

White Out 403 did confuse the boyfriend (Walker, innocent shooter) and the ex-boyfriend (Glover, known drug dealer) earlier, but to him he's just seeing what the "law" is seeing; officers conducting warrant got shot at and fired back.

No, I am definitely aware of the difference between the 2 men. Her current BF is just a regular dude, with no criminal involvement. The reason the police were there, however, was they had Breonna on tape talking to her ex about using her residence as a trap house (slang for drug house) and they saw people coming and going who were known drug dealers.

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

He's placing the blame on Taylor but it's not because of her race. She was involved in a homicide when she lent her rental car to her boyfriend-at-the-time (Glover) and someone ended up shot 8 times and killed, so she knew the risks. She herself expressed concerns to Glover in the leaked transcripts that she worried for him because of his drug-dealing and Walker was afraid it was either Glover or someone associated with him breaking into the house that night. She lived with him to the point that Glover still listed his home address as Taylor's residence. But despite the clear bad-apple (to say the least) in Glover, Taylor kept close ties with him including, according to Glover, holding onto $15,000 of his that night she was killed.

I definitely don't place *the* blame on Breonna, and this is unfair to suggest so. I'm making the point that there is no singular person or entity to blame here. It's a confluence of a lot of bad decisions, policies, and enforcement. Does Breonna share some blame? Of course, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise. The police were at her home because she was letting someone use it as a drug house. Does that mean its MOSTLY her fault? Or that she deserved to die? ####, of course not. But her decisions were a part of a really bad chain of events that precipitated the police showing up.

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Rightfully or wrongfully, I think it's extremely likely White Out 403 would have the same opinion on this case if Taylor was white.

Yeah, this is true.

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

But then I think he's missing some of the bigger issues. Would a judge sign five warrants in two minutes if this was an affluential or even just whiter neighbourhood? Would they have fought for the no-knock warrant if she was white? Would the police even be investigating her at all if they weren't Black? Would they be executing the warrant at night and in streetwear if Breonna was a white woman? Where are all the pro-gun second-amendment loving NRA nuts who should be making Walker a hero? And of course would the cops have been charged if it was a white couple? We can't really know the answer to these (well except the NRA one, it's cause racists) but they need to be asked - and that's before getting into what systemic racism exists to keep Black people living in these less-affluential neighbourhoods dealing drugs and so on.

I had mentioned earlier in the thread, before someone started screaming at me that I was a racist, that I think the war on drugs is awful and needs to go, and does harm the black community more than any other. Full agreement here that the war on drugs is awful, needs to end, and is causing unneeded misery.