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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
You keep pushing that scenario. I'm not sure if you understand how unlikely that is. Yet you've stated it as a foregone conclusion, multiple times.
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Just because it is a horrible outcome. Just because it is something we have not seen in our lifetime in this country or in most western societies. Just because we don’t think it is possible because “good and ordinary” people would never turn on their neighbours, does not mean the horrible and tragic cannot happen. And it would be a disaster, particularly in fact for us as Canadians.
Wars or revolutions or bloody coups- whatever you want to call it- are about usually economic gain. The States has multiple generations that have been brought up with the false narrative that they are the most “free” country in the world and then Trump came in and put on very public display that such a notion is a mirage. That Americans cannot pursue the American dream because it actually doesn’t exist. He has consolidated power, obliterated confidence in the US checks and balances to said power, and now is on the brink of cementing control forever- I might add. The idea that, even if Trump loses this but somehow retains the presidency, which is absolutely a possibility here especially with the Supreme Court up for grabs now and the ability to install sweeping political changes to the American system to transform it to his exclusive benefit- he will ever be up for re-election again, is about as reliable as the suggestion that he will just resign.
The only thing Trump doesn’t lie about and that you can trust is his telegraphed political plays to retain and embolden his power structure for the ultimate authority of the United States. He will amend what he needs to in order to eliminate presidency term limits. Like his good friend and mentor Putin did, when Russia had term limits what did he do? He switched out the power structure from president to prime minister, then ran for that while passing a law that the position he was slithering into had no term limits. Voila, Putin for life. Trump is operating out of the same playbook.
When a large group of people, like the millions of Americans, want change- and they cannot get it- it will only last so long. The structure won’t work forever to have the kind of exploding class inequality like the states has. And then on top of that, you have this extremely individualistic, overly proud culture, that believes in things like self-determination, and “standing up for what’s right” (as if they are the arbiters of that- eyeroll). You have a Trump base, that is rabidly supportive literally no matter what. And you have huge discontent And rapidly growing other group, some of which includes centrists and Republicans but mostly Democrats, , for the crimes of shattering democracy and destroying what was honestly in most Americans hearts and minds the greatest nation in the world. You also have everybody owning a gun(s).
So let’s see. Political power structure destroyed. Authoritarianism consolidated, utilizing much of the same plays as dictators in historical memory and at present. A president with literally nothing to lose or he goes to jail. A super pissed populace with unending problems and no ability to see resolution based on current power structure, and who felt they’ve been fed a lifetime of lies (and they have), and then you have said super pissed group armed to the teeth. Throw in some racism, and mass economic inequality... sprinkle in some child detention centres and other notable crimes against humanity...
...... yeah tough to see how this doesn’t boil over? I get that it sucks and is scary, I actually can’t see any other way out. You ask me why I’m so confident, I guess I ask you why you’re so confident that the result is not a savage bloody explosion of violence here?