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Originally Posted by you&me
Are you saying, with a straight face, that what you're proposing / hoping for doesn't require a "massive change"?
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Reread what I was responding to. I was asked about a "massive change in human nature".
A massive change in government functioning would be required, not a change in human nature.
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
It doesnt actually matter as in any system these are the people who end up in charge, you put in UBI and the 'psychos' will always find a way to game the system and end up with the best of it, as a species though we have spent almost all of our existence relying on our strength and aggression to literally make it through the day and pass on our genes, for millions of years, not the couple of thousand we have been 'civilised' the only surviving genes passed on were the ones from the most violently aggressive, we are at our heart Morlocks not Eloi
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And yet, we today live in a (relatively) civilized society. As a species, we've come a long way from our days of overt barbarism. Has there been some "massive change" in human nature... or has the capability to be civil toward one another been in us all along?
Another thing to consider... countries vary enormously in their policies and in how the government treats its citizens, as well as how citizens treat one another. Some countries are more like North Korea, others are more like the Scandinavian countries. Some are dictatorships, some are democracies, most are somewhere in between.
The question is, how is this possible, if all people are beholden to one rigid and specifically defined human nature?
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Originally Posted by you&me
I took MG's use of "psycho" to be less literal, and more along the lines of "meanies that get what they want".
I understand that psychopaths (and sociopaths) are real and that many of their characteristics tend to lead to better personal outcomes... Fascinating stuff.
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I was referring to people like Donald Trump, Ayn Rand, Ronald Reagan, Koch Brothers, etc. People who actively try to push the world farther and farther away from egalitarianism, and closer and closer toward rugged callousness, exploitation, and authoritarianism.