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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Isn't the point of UBI, in part, to completely eliminate abuse of the system? If everybody is getting the same basic amount, how do you play that system when it's so simple? Removal of an ungainly and misused system that is currently in place would be part of the attraction.
I also don't quite understand the 'poor people are lazy, they just won't work' argument. If the UBI is a guaranteed amount, then working beyond that would simply augment the income of each person. With the movement away from full time to part time jobs, this would actually help to fill positions on the lower end of the spectrum.
Absolute destruction of the current system is a selling point.
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Eliminate abuse? Not likely. Once again, people on the lower end will abuse the system by not working or reporting taxes. People on the upper end will abuse the system via tax avoidance. People horribly abuse our current system, both poor and rich alike, offering more social funding is likely to allow more opportunity for abuse, not less.
Also, no one ever said poor people are lazy. You're purposely distorting my argument in an attempt to provide yourself with moral high ground. Yes, I think it would be great if all Canadian citizens were guaranteed what they want. My concern is with the reality of creating such a system.
A lot of lower end jobs are soul crushing and not satisfying in any way and only provide enough income for people to sustain themselves. Many people also do under the table work, that they do not report.
If the choice is between cleaning toilets every day for minimum wage and staying at home and side-hustling for extras every now and again, it's not a choice at all. Certain jobs are so bad that the only motivation to perform them is survival.