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Originally Posted by Red Slinger
Who are these 'others' that are advocating for this?
UBI, in every serious discussion I've come across, is intended to be enough guaranteed income for a person to meet their basic needs like food and shelter while not enough so that people are able to not be productive members of society.
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Advocating for what? As with all welfare discussions, there is a side that thinks that it'll make people lazy and not able to sustain themselves. Most here haven't outright said that, but there is the belief that more handouts won't solve the problem.
Plus, we've been diverting into a discussion the last 4-5 pages about the fact that there are thousands of jobs not being filled while at the same time unemployment levels are much higher than they should be. That discussion has been based around the idea that before we start implementing UBI, perhaps we need to reassess as a society how we educate and train people for jobs, and what jobs will be available in the future as it is very clear that the education system is not training people for the work that is available.
The reason the jobs are not being filled is due to the lack of properly trained workers. A big issue is not only in kids coming out of post secondary into fields with no available jobs, but perhaps an even bigger issue is lack of retraining available for workers coming from industries that are dying off. A good example of that being the oil & gas industry, and the lack of resources available to take thousands of workers and retrain them into industries that have more work.
Either way, I still think UBI on a very local level could work, and I feel that there is enough evidence to suggest that it should be based around providing shelter, and less around providing all the basic needs at once.