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Old 09-11-2020, 08:13 AM   #211
Macindoc
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Originally Posted by agulati View Post
Powerplay and penalty kill do not impact the +/- at all though.

Dallas has been more successful in the post season (more wins = more goals/points for top minute munchers than goals/points against usually), that will impact the +/-.
They certainly do. SHG for is a +, PPG for is nothing. SHG against is a -, PPG against is nothing. So an otherwise neutral player will almost always be a + player if he only plays on the PK and a - player if he only plays PP, unless of course there are zero SHGs.

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Originally Posted by Mathgod View Post
It shows that they are worse 5-on-5 than Benn & Seguin...
No, because +/- counts SHGs but not PPGs, which preferentially benefits players on the PK. If a player (just for the sake of argument) played only on the PP but not on ES or PK, they could at best be a 0, but would almost certainly be a -. Conversely, a player who only played PK but never ES or PP could at worst be a 0 but would almost certainly be a +. Now, if +/- did not count PPGs or SHGs, then your statement would be correct, but that is not the case for that particular stat, which is why I originally questioned its use.

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