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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
You ever go to a work function or a dinner party and someone tells a story in which they think it makes them look good but you're struck with how it actually makes them look bad?
So the story as Burke tells it is that the Flames, at the time that means he and Treliving, are several calls deep into inquiring about Ristoleinen. Several calls deep of course means that this deal actually has traction.
So they loop in their analytics guy.
So right there, Burke is trying to make snow look good but is actually telling a couple of really interesting pieces about the Flames management workflow:
1) The Flames don't loop in their analytics staff from the start (bad)
2) The Flames are using the eye-test from senior management to on-board acquisitions (not great)
Ok, so they loop in snow who tells them they would be 'crazy' to trade for this player.
Ok, so the senior management of the team has their sights on a player, they like this player enough that they've gotten several calls deep about him. Presumably, they have watched this player and maybe even had scouts look at him as well. The cumulative management expertise of this team has them pursuing a player that their analytics guy says they would be 'crazy' to trade for.
So, not great.
The Flames are then so persuaded by Snow, Burke calls him a genius, that they immediately nix the trade.
So if Snow's opinion is so valuable, why didn't the Flames come to him immediately? If you've got a guy this talented in the organization, why are senior managers using the eye test to onboard trade discussions at all, why isn't Snow onboarding the trade discussions to them?
Anyway, just one of those things. Probably 10% true because it's a story from Burke on national TV, but if it is true or mostly true explains some of the talent evaluations that have happened during the last several years. Maybe the Flames understand how to use snow's abilities better now but I don't think that story is flattering to the Flames as Burke thought it was going to be when he told it.
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You get all that from this?
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Burke stated on sportsnet that calgary already nix a trade evolving hi. Cause his numbers were not good I believe
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Around a GM that is known to have a process and is always looking to turn over every rock, but he keeps his analytics guy out until the final decision point?
How about Buffalo approached Calgary with a trade around Risto and the Flames looked at the player and the numbers as a group and said no?
Don't get me wrong you could be right as I don't know the inner workings of their system, but that doesn't pass the smell test to me.