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Old 09-10-2020, 11:38 PM   #53
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Uh no, a policy position is anything a voter wants a government to do. Period. Many such positions are not mainstream, many of them are unpopular, many of them are not endorsed by a major political party. But they are nevertheless policy positions.
Uh no, they aren't. A policy position is a documented statement of a value or action plan to further a given political goal. Political policies are established to further an agenda and require fiscal, legal, and regulatory support to develop political traction for the idea or concept behind the policy position. Policy positions work in concert to develop a platform which inform the electorate of the goals and priorities for the party representing the platform and policies. You are conflating a idea with policy, and they are very different things. What you are talking about is issue identification in the policy cycle. You are just at the idea stage and there has yet to be any party take this idea on and even begin serious analysis, let alone consultation, or considering coordinating support through the means I listed above. This is pretty basic stuff. Do yourself a favor and go to your local community college and take a class on political science where they focus on policy development and the policy cycle. At worst, read this book.

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But... can you clear some things up for me? First, how do you square your admission that 70% of American voters favor medicare for all, then turn around and say that the American people "reject the nanny state" and will vehemently reject any "socialist" program?
What's to square? People can be in favor of something and then vote against it. People are overwhelmingly in favor of pot legalization, but ballot initiative after initiative fails come voting time. An idea can have support, but making it a policy politicians will get behind and people will actually vote for are two different things. Again, Ideas and policies are two very different things.
Americans vehemently reject the nanny state and socialism on principle, or have you not been paying attention to elections in this country over the past 50 years? Just like the vast majority of Americans want gun control and advanced background checks, but they won't vote in favor of any politician or ballot initiative that could possibly achieve that outcome. If this is too difficult for you to understand, then politics isn't your game.

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Also, you complain about "whiny bitches" not voting for Biden, but what would your reaction be if one of them responded to you by saying "that's the way it is and get used to it"...?
My response would be, "How do you like the job Trump is doing? Think another little tantrum vote is going to work out for you, because it's going to ####ed the rest of us right in the tail pipe again!" I appreciate that people vote with their emotions, but grow up, get a ####ing grip, and recognize what the outcomes could be. People are saying its unfair that Trump is being compared to Satan, and I agree. Satan was no where near as evil as Donald Trump.
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