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N26 · 09-10-2020, 01:15 PM

My trade

I think Philly has to move a big contract to make Johnny happen and in this flat cap-constricted league the easiest way is to send a big one back to us in the Gaudreau trade.

I tried to make a trade where the biggest contract we took back was Gostisbehere but I then had to make three follow up trades as Philadelphia GM and none of them were especially palatable. I was forced to add prospect or draft pick sweeteners to make them work and potentially weakened the Flyers in years to come.

I think they will want to move Voráček or vanRiemsdyk, preferably JVR. As Flames GM I don’t really want either of them. Voráček is still very good but the AAV and term are too much/long for me. I really don't want JVR. He may not be as one-dimensional as Johnny but he really doesn’t do nearly enough to earn that cap-hit. Trading Johnny and getting a more expensive LW signed for 3 or 4 years instead of 2 seems like a loss to me.

So what did I do as Calgary GM? I took JVR but I made them pay for it. If the price for Johnny is an established player, a good prospect and a high-ish pick I decided that in order for us to take JVR and his contract the price is now two established players and two good prospects (with additions by Cgy to keep the value close).

Other than JVR, the established player is Scott Laughton who just had a decent season and a good playoff. I think he is what we want Bennett to consistently be; a 0.5+PPG gritty guy who skates well, can play up and down the lines, play special teams and has the type of game that excels in playoff hockey. He is also very capable in the moustache department. I know Philly values him as they protected him in the Vegas expansion draft when many didn’t expect them too. This is a big part of the price I am making them pay to take back a lesser player than Johnny who has a higher cap hit and one year longer left on his contract.

The second part of that price is two prospects rather than one. Morgan Frost and Philippe Myers. Because I recognize that both of these prospects are very good and on the verge of being regulars I know that it is too much to ask for just Johnny even with the pain of having to take JVR. Therefore I am also sending Kylington and a mid-round pick to Philly so that it is more palatable for them. Kylington is a prospect on the verge of full-time NHL status as well but without the high end that Myers probably has. I think Kylington tops out as a third-pairing guy with some powerplay duties whereas Myers is going to be a top 4 who may be excellent.

To Phil- Johnny Gaudreau, Oliver Kylington, 2022 4th rounder

To Cgy- James vanRiemsdyk, Morgan Frost, Scott Laughton, Philippe Myers

Post-Trade

I also try to move JVR again. Maybe to Pittsburgh as he fits in their shortening window. Perhaps as part of a Murray deal that involves us taking the Bjugstad. Hörnqvist or Johnson contract. If I am trading Johnny I want to take a run at Taylor Hall so I have to be careful how much I take back.

Possible Flames 2020-21 lineup

Hall-Monahan-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Backlund-Lindholm
Laughton-Bennett-Dubé
Lucic-Ryan-Gawdin
Frost-Rieder

Gio-Myers
Hanifin-Andersson
Välimäki-Yelesin
Mackey

Murray
Rittich

I like this lineup but I wasn’t quite able to bring it under the cap after signing Mangiapane, Myers, Gawdin, Rieder, Hall (5x $8.125) and Murray (3x $5.325) I was almost $2 million over after buying out Bjugstad. In order to get under I would have to play hardball in negotiations with Mangiapane (again! poor Bread) and Myers trying to get them to sign lower than expected contracts. I could also save half a million by leaving Frost and Mackey (who may not be ready) in the AHL and signing journeymen at $700 000. Otherwise I would have to look at trading Rittich and finding a $1 to $1.5 million backup. Aaron Dell maybe, or Louis Dominigue. What’s Chad Johnson doing these days?

Futures

Frost and Myers strengthen an iffy prospect pool for the Flames unless they make the transition right away (as I suspect Myers does). Pelletier looks good and Mackey is getting good press. After that there are a lot of maybes. Pettersen, Wolf, Zavogrodniy and Růžička have good buzz this year and perhaps one or two of Gawdin, Phillips, Tuulola, Philp, Lerby, Yelesin or Poolman can become something. I still have very high hopes for Tyler Parsons but...you know...goalies. There’s some time as only Gio, Ryan and to a lesser extent, Backlund and Lucic, are older players

Expansion protection list

I do whatever it takes to get Lucic to waive. Hire his kids as scouts, build a graffiti-proof Serbian church in Vancouver, promise to make a deal with Seattle so that they don’t take him (draft pick, Tuulola maybe). Whatever it takes.

Forwards - Hall, Monahan, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Dubé and 2 of Laughton, Bennett, Mangiapane, Backlund depending on how season 2020-21 unfolds

Defense - Andersson, Hanifin, Myers

Goal- Murray

Exposing Gio breaks my heart a little (Backlund too if that comes to pass) but I think it has to be done. Hopefully he is not taken and one of the exposed forwards is more attractive. By 2021-22 my top 4 is Hanifin-Andersson, Välimäki-Myers anyways with Mackey a possibility too. So it just has to be.

Philadelphia 2020-21 line-up

Giroux-Couturier-Voráček
Gaudreau-Hayes-Konecny (Bill Arnold where are you?)
Lindblom-Patrick-Farabee
Raffl-Grant-AubéKubel
Twarynski-Bunnaman

Provorov-Niskanen
Sanheim-Braun
Hägg-Gostisbehere
Kylington

Hart
Elliot

Got that under the cap no problem with a small decrease for Braun (-$400 000) and minimal or no raises for Patrick, Grant, Hägg and Elliot. They have a lot of work to do to make room for Hart, Johnny and Sanheim re-signings over the next two years but they’ve got a season to start figuring that out.

Futures

Despite giving up two potentially excellent players in Frost and Myers the Flyers have a good looking prospect pool with Rubtsov (Cte), Vorobyev (Cte), Laberge (Cte), Ratcliffe (LW), Noel (Cte), Suskho (RW), M Strome (Cte), Twarynski (LW), Bunnaman (Cte) D Kaše (C/RW), Allison (RW), Zamula (Def), Sandström (G) and Ustimenko (G) all considered good prospects. With an older than average lineup (7 of the above roster will be 32+ next season) spots should be opening up in the near future

Philadelphia Expansion Protection List

Forward - Giroux, Hayes, Gaudreau, Konecny, Couturier, and 2 of Voráček, Patrick, Lindblom and Aubé-Kubel depending on how 2020-21 goes

Defense - Provorov, Sanheim and 1 of Gostisbehere, Braun (unlikely), Hägg or Morin depending on how 2020-21 goes

Goal - Hart

09-10-2020, 01:15 PM	#3
N26 Scoring Winger Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Paradise Island, Bahamas Exp:	My trade My trade I think Philly has to move a big contract to make Johnny happen and in this flat cap-constricted league the easiest way is to send a big one back to us in the Gaudreau trade. I tried to make a trade where the biggest contract we took back was Gostisbehere but I then had to make three follow up trades as Philadelphia GM and none of them were especially palatable. I was forced to add prospect or draft pick sweeteners to make them work and potentially weakened the Flyers in years to come. I think they will want to move Voráček or vanRiemsdyk, preferably JVR. As Flames GM I don’t really want either of them. Voráček is still very good but the AAV and term are too much/long for me. I really don't want JVR. He may not be as one-dimensional as Johnny but he really doesn’t do nearly enough to earn that cap-hit. Trading Johnny and getting a more expensive LW signed for 3 or 4 years instead of 2 seems like a loss to me. So what did I do as Calgary GM? I took JVR but I made them pay for it. If the price for Johnny is an established player, a good prospect and a high-ish pick I decided that in order for us to take JVR and his contract the price is now two established players and two good prospects (with additions by Cgy to keep the value close). Other than JVR, the established player is Scott Laughton who just had a decent season and a good playoff. I think he is what we want Bennett to consistently be; a 0.5+PPG gritty guy who skates well, can play up and down the lines, play special teams and has the type of game that excels in playoff hockey. He is also very capable in the moustache department. I know Philly values him as they protected him in the Vegas expansion draft when many didn’t expect them too. This is a big part of the price I am making them pay to take back a lesser player than Johnny who has a higher cap hit and one year longer left on his contract. The second part of that price is two prospects rather than one. Morgan Frost and Philippe Myers. Because I recognize that both of these prospects are very good and on the verge of being regulars I know that it is too much to ask for just Johnny even with the pain of having to take JVR. Therefore I am also sending Kylington and a mid-round pick to Philly so that it is more palatable for them. Kylington is a prospect on the verge of full-time NHL status as well but without the high end that Myers probably has. I think Kylington tops out as a third-pairing guy with some powerplay duties whereas Myers is going to be a top 4 who may be excellent. To Phil- Johnny Gaudreau, Oliver Kylington, 2022 4th rounder To Cgy- James vanRiemsdyk, Morgan Frost, Scott Laughton, Philippe Myers Post-Trade I also try to move JVR again. Maybe to Pittsburgh as he fits in their shortening window. Perhaps as part of a Murray deal that involves us taking the Bjugstad. Hörnqvist or Johnson contract. If I am trading Johnny I want to take a run at Taylor Hall so I have to be careful how much I take back. Possible Flames 2020-21 lineup Hall-Monahan-Tkachuk Mangiapane-Backlund-Lindholm Laughton-Bennett-Dubé Lucic-Ryan-Gawdin Frost-Rieder Gio-Myers Hanifin-Andersson Välimäki-Yelesin Mackey Murray Rittich I like this lineup but I wasn’t quite able to bring it under the cap after signing Mangiapane, Myers, Gawdin, Rieder, Hall (5x $8.125) and Murray (3x $5.325) I was almost $2 million over after buying out Bjugstad. In order to get under I would have to play hardball in negotiations with Mangiapane (again! poor Bread) and Myers trying to get them to sign lower than expected contracts. I could also save half a million by leaving Frost and Mackey (who may not be ready) in the AHL and signing journeymen at $700 000. Otherwise I would have to look at trading Rittich and finding a $1 to $1.5 million backup. Aaron Dell maybe, or Louis Dominigue. What’s Chad Johnson doing these days? Futures Frost and Myers strengthen an iffy prospect pool for the Flames unless they make the transition right away (as I suspect Myers does). Pelletier looks good and Mackey is getting good press. After that there are a lot of maybes. Pettersen, Wolf, Zavogrodniy and Růžička have good buzz this year and perhaps one or two of Gawdin, Phillips, Tuulola, Philp, Lerby, Yelesin or Poolman can become something. I still have very high hopes for Tyler Parsons but...you know...goalies. There’s some time as only Gio, Ryan and to a lesser extent, Backlund and Lucic, are older players Expansion protection list I do whatever it takes to get Lucic to waive. Hire his kids as scouts, build a graffiti-proof Serbian church in Vancouver, promise to make a deal with Seattle so that they don’t take him (draft pick, Tuulola maybe). Whatever it takes. Forwards - Hall, Monahan, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Dubé and 2 of Laughton, Bennett, Mangiapane, Backlund depending on how season 2020-21 unfolds Defense - Andersson, Hanifin, Myers Goal- Murray Exposing Gio breaks my heart a little (Backlund too if that comes to pass) but I think it has to be done. Hopefully he is not taken and one of the exposed forwards is more attractive. By 2021-22 my top 4 is Hanifin-Andersson, Välimäki-Myers anyways with Mackey a possibility too. So it just has to be. Philadelphia 2020-21 line-up Giroux-Couturier-Voráček Gaudreau-Hayes-Konecny (Bill Arnold where are you?) Lindblom-Patrick-Farabee Raffl-Grant-AubéKubel Twarynski-Bunnaman Provorov-Niskanen Sanheim-Braun Hägg-Gostisbehere Kylington Hart Elliot Got that under the cap no problem with a small decrease for Braun (-$400 000) and minimal or no raises for Patrick, Grant, Hägg and Elliot. They have a lot of work to do to make room for Hart, Johnny and Sanheim re-signings over the next two years but they’ve got a season to start figuring that out. Futures Despite giving up two potentially excellent players in Frost and Myers the Flyers have a good looking prospect pool with Rubtsov (Cte), Vorobyev (Cte), Laberge (Cte), Ratcliffe (LW), Noel (Cte), Suskho (RW), M Strome (Cte), Twarynski (LW), Bunnaman (Cte) D Kaše (C/RW), Allison (RW), Zamula (Def), Sandström (G) and Ustimenko (G) all considered good prospects. With an older than average lineup (7 of the above roster will be 32+ next season) spots should be opening up in the near future Philadelphia Expansion Protection List Forward - Giroux, Hayes, Gaudreau, Konecny, Couturier, and 2 of Voráček, Patrick, Lindblom and Aubé-Kubel depending on how 2020-21 goes Defense - Provorov, Sanheim and 1 of Gostisbehere, Braun (unlikely), Hägg or Morin depending on how 2020-21 goes Goal - Hart Last edited by N26; 09-10-2020 at 01:29 PM.