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Old 09-08-2020, 08:15 AM   #3297
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Originally Posted by Mathgod View Post
He was a better matchup against Trump specifically, due to his appeal to disaffected Republicans. Biden is more appealing among Democratic voters, but only Democratic voters (for the most part anyway) actually vote in Democratic primaries. That's the distinction you don't seem to be making here...
Do you understand what you are saying? You have admitted that Biden is the farthest right of all the Democratic candidates but are suggesting a farther left candidate had the greatest chance to siphon off votes from disaffected Republicans. That doesn't make any sense. Biden represents their ideological leanings more accurately than any of the other Democrat candidates. He is trusted because he has the body of work to lean on and establish a pattern of behavior. To conservative voters this is really important. You're going to have to provide proof that Yang had support from Republicans, and they would have voted for him in the general, because your argument makes no sense at all.

And just so you understand something, people registering from the other party to participate in primary votes is a practice meant to increase support for weaker candidates and generate discord during the primary process. This is why primaries are closed, to prevent such interference.

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Not every Republican voter is the same. Have a look at the Lincoln Project for instance. Also, Trump won in 2016 due to his appeal to people in swing states who lost their jobs in recent years. They were in pain and looking for someone to give them a positive outlook for their future. Yang provides this more so than Biden, and he's also a caring person who doesn't have Trump's fascistic tendencies. Every time Yang speaks about his policies, he talks about the job losses due to automation, and he is mindful of the pain that job losses cause.
And what exactly was Yang's response to this issue? What was his policy issue? To give people a monthly check. That doesn't solve the problem. That isn't a policy position. Policy positions actually try and answer the question and solve the underlying problem. Dude, this conversation is way beyond your grasp on politics, governance, and the American form of government.

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You're making a whole bunch of assumptions here, but I was actually paying attention to the lines that bookies were making during the primary. At the time, Yang vs Trump was showing a line that favoured Yang more heavily than Biden was in the Biden vs Trump line. I wish I had taken a screenshot of it at the time.

Well, for starters, there's this: https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/ne...s-andrew-yang/
I'm making assumptions? You're using betting odds to backup your point, when betting odds have nothing to do with voting or the American system of government. That's making an assumption. How about looking at actual votes cast and polling preferences? Again, Yang didn't even carry the Asian vote, one demographic where he should have been strongest.

Betting odds are useless in predicting outcomes. Betting odds are nothing more than the reflection of people putting bets down against a possible outcome. For crying out loud, it even states in that article you posted that Biden was the candidate that Trump feared the most, meaning that;s the guy he didn't want to face.
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