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What point? The problem with a snarky one-liner is that it's hard to tell whatever point you are even trying to make? That some people are saying that "things are better now"? That's a gross over simplification of views. People have taken the time to outline what they think BT has done well, and what he doesn't done so well - in balanced fashions. Some think he deserves to be back, and some don't. That's fine. There's room on both sides. But don't dismiss the views that you don't disagree with or minimize how people arrive at them.
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I'm dismissing the views that are increasingly not supported by the evidence. You yourself just made the connection between treliving and feaster. I'm not going to belabor that because I know it's not what you're trying to do, but posts like the one by Enoch above about how the jury is still out on the Flames strategy deserves mockery.
Not because it's a differing view, but because it's absolute lunacy at this point in the face of the overwhelming evidence of it not working worth a damn.
Sure, maybe I'm not making a very clear case when I make a snarky remark, but it's because I've already made the point ad nauseum.
Other posters and mods seem very content with this in regards to posters like Ricardow, so I figure it's kosher.
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Both were bad moves. I guess you can take your pick on which one was worse. Bouwmeester had a year left, and if the best you could do was Cundari, Berra and a late 1st in a shallow draft - they should have held on to him.
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Considering bouwmeester returned a 1st and bera who was turned into a 2nd, I don't really think it's a case of taking your pick between gaining a 1st and a 2nd and giving up a 1st and 2x2nds.
Like, ok, neither is a good trade, but one is selling low on a player with a year left and another is getting absolutely fleeced.
You can say it's a pick'em but I mean...
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You seemed to raise Bouwmeester as a good example of strong asset management. The good part of it was authored by Sutter, to trade for his rights and sign him.
But management of that asset from the next regime was piss poor. If we want to compare bodies of work between Feaster and Tre we can do that I guess but I agree that is pointless and not what I was doing.
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I'm not saying it was good, I'm saying it wasn't horrible, which is largely the legacy of the hamonic deal, culminating in him likely leaving to free agency.
At the very least the flames got
something for bouwmeester, and that something was considerably more than they gave up to get him.