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Originally Posted by New Era
I can't believe I'm actually engaging this troll but someone has to shut this garbage down.
Institutional racism is real, and has been real for almost 150 years. Since the emancipation proclamation institutional racism has continued to evolve and become entrenched in the mechanisms of power. Whether they be political, economic, or social, institutional racism is real and continues to manifest itself across our society.
Jim Crow laws were the first foray into institutional racism. Yes, racism was codified into law. Grandfather clauses were also mechanisms that allowed racist ideals and laws to exist, even after those racist ideals should have been rendered asunder by constitutional amendments and federal laws.
Voting is the best example of institutionalized racism. Poll taxes for decades were designed to keep African Americans from getting to the polls. Same with literacy testing. Both of these were directed at black voters. Voter ID laws have been designed to prevent black and brown people from being able to even register to vote, and residency rules have made it extremely difficult for those who are transient to cast a vote. The new rules where absolute data compliance (all characters matching on both ID and voter rolls) have negatively impacted black and brown people to a much higher degree than whites. I don't even have to talk about redistricting (gerrymandering).
Housing has long been subject to institutional racism. Segregated housing was a standard until the Fair Housing Act of 1968 made the practice illegal.
Guess who changed that and killed off many of the protections afforded to black and brown people to prevent such practices? Our sitting president is one of those people who refused to rent to people strictly based on the color of their skin and his executive order made it possible for that practice to return.
Broadband access is separated by socio-economic means. Certain carriers in the United States will not provide the same services to predominantly black and brown communities that they provide to white communities. This is indicative is service coverage maps and where lines of fiber access are available.
Health services for black and brown people are much worse than those for white people, where doctors and hospitals can refuse patients because of lack of health insurance. This issue affects those two visible minority groups more than any other because they are forced to work poor paying jobs that do not provide benefits or insurance. And what does the party of the old white guy (GOP) do? They kill off Obamacare that elevates those people to where they could afford insurance. No, no systemic racism there.
Crime and punishment is most obvious example. We don't have to talk about shootings either. We can just talking about policies such as stop-and-frisk. We can talk about harassment of drivers and pedestrians because of their skin color. Stanford did a study that found black people are 20 times more likely to be pulled over for a stop than their white counterparts. NOT a coincidence.
This are just easy examples off the top of my head. I won't even go into issues like the military, immigration, access to education, the drug trade and negative outcomes of the drug culture (with the exception of opiods, which is still systemic but in the other direction), and stereotypes in media. The list is very long and you have to be ignorant to ignore the long history of racism in the United States and how social constructs have been established in favor of one group (whites) and to hold back minorities.
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
US average income black or hispanic 40,000 a year, white 62,000
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Both of these arguments for contemporary institutional racism are based on outcomes. History is obviously replete with examples of institutional racism. But I would be interested in some specific examples of an institution with explicitly racist policies (which target POC) right now. The closest we probably have are things like drug laws related to school proximity, etc. Those disproportionately impact black communities, and I would support them being modified or eliminated as appropriate. I'm open to a discussion about whether these were, or are currently, just simply suffering from the law of unintended consequences.
Simply relying on outcomes like wealth gap, number of people shot/killed by police, education, etc, would be a superficial analysis. I'm sure @CorsiHockeyLeague would caution against using such data in a way that would resemble goal-seeking. I certainly agree that they exist, although I am not a fellow traveler with BLM or most in this thread about the cause being as simple as system racism. This is what Coleman Hughes calls the "disparity fallacy". (
https://quillette.com/2018/05/14/the-racism-treadmill/)
There is a robust debate, if people choose to listen, about whether the different outcomes are a result of conscious or subconscious oppressive white racism, or cultural aspects that are limiting within the black community. Glenn Loury speaks to it being a "problematic pattern." (
https://media4.manhattan-institute.o.../R-0519-GL.pdf). Barrack Obama takes a more direct approach saying that the notion of "acting white has to go".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7jepUNPBog Poor Barack took some heat for that one, and still does.
Some would say that well intentioned Democrat policies related to the war on poverty were ultimately failures and counter-productive due unintended consequences. John McWhorter is a good example
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-great-society
I am not certain of the exact mix that is causing black people in the US to suffer from unequal outcomes. I think it is our mission to cure that situation - but it's complex.
My point is that systemic racism has gone from being a claim that requires validation to being an unassailable first principle.