[LeatherFace]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Reallocate and defund have the same meaning. If you “reallocate” funds, the division losing a portion of that funding has been “defunded”. If you’re hung up on that point alone, maybe get over it. “Reallocate police funding” doesn’t have the same ring. Nor does “Remember that black lives matter as well!” Then again, you could make this same argument for pretty much any press headline ever written, and you need to actually dive into the substance to understand what anyone is trying to say. That isn’t a new concept.

Who cares about how it sounds if it doesn't convey your message? 'Reallocate Police Funds' sounds fine and its more clear as to what you want. Also hearing about what some protesters want and I hope its just some, they keep talking about literally getting rid of police forces and prisons instead of reforming them. Now that's just plain DUMB.

As for the racism problems in Toronto Police Sevices, here a recent report from the Ontario Human Rights Commission: http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/public-inte...mination-black

I don't believe anything this organisation puts out because its literally the most corrupt, biased, unfair, unbalance, narrative driven organisation EVER. What a colossal waste of taxpayer money to have this POS organization exist. Maybe a long time ago it might've served a purpose, but now all it ever does is release information and studies that never tell the whole story and ignore any facts and statistics that might explain the outcomes that they find. You'd be better off abolishing this useless department and redirected the funds to help at risk communities and it would actually benefit those people more than whatever pointless crap the OHRC put out to justify its existence.

Black people were over-represented in use of force cases (28.8%), shootings (36%), deadly encounters (61.5%) and fatal shootings (70%). Black men make up 4.1% of Toronto’s population, yet were complainants in a quarter of SIU cases alleging sexual assault by TPS officers.

Between 2013 and 2017, a Black person was far more likely than a White person to be involved in an incident involving Toronto Police use of force that resulted in serious injury or death. A Black person was:

- 3.1 times more likely than a White person to be involved in a SIU investigation
- 3.6 times more likely than a White person to be involved in a police use of force case
- 4.9 times more likely than a White person to be involved in a police shooting that resulted in serious civilian injury or death
- 11.3 times more likely than a White person to be involved in a police use of force case that resulted in civilian death
- 19.5 times more likely than a White person to be involved in a police shooting that resulted in civilian death.

So pretty much all this supports the fact that black people in the GTA are far more violent and criminal than anyone else, which leads to more police interactions and considering these are violent criminals, I seriously doubt they like cooperating with police in a peaceful manner which means they're more likely to have violent interactions with police. Seems pretty simple and doesn't look to have much to do with racism or one race/ethnic group of people being treated better than any other simply based on skin color.

Although there were more allegations of Black people (41.7%) resisting arrest than White people (25.5%), White people were more likely to have a criminal record (54.5%) and to have allegedly threatened or attacked police (61.8%) than Black people (44.4% – criminal record; 44.4% – threatened or attacked police).

What kind of criminal record are we talking about? I seriously doubt that there are more white people with violent criminal records especially to do with guns than black people having violent criminal records where violent crimes and murder are involved.

In Toronto in 2014 they had 177 shootings for the ENTIRE YEAR. In 2019 they had a historic record setting 490 shootings and this year Toronto is 33 shootings AHEAD OF YEAR'S PACE. I think everyone knows who's committing the vast majority of shootings here so I would love to see how many black criminals have a record with violent crimes involved in comparison to white people and I bet it will be much higher. I think that matters more than simply saying 'more white people have a criminal record'.

61.8% of white people resisting arrest threatened or attacked police but they were 3-4 times more likely to be arrested without injury, and 11-19 times LESS likely to be choked or shot to death by police.

But how can we definitively say this is 100% race related and not have other factors be involved? Also take a look here where out of 461 fatal encounters with police in Canada between 2000-2017 only 43 or so people killed by police were black. So 43 deaths of black people in 17 years for ALL of Canada where 10 of them were unarmed. For Toronto specifically its 19 black people killed by Toronto police over 17 years.

That's not nothing, but that's pretty damn far from being an epidemic don't you think?

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/long...m/deadly-force

In Toronto/GTA there's definitely more than 19 black people being murdered here every single year and yet somehow that's seen as a low priority problem that groups like BLM don't think is worth their time and can't get even a fraction of the protests and attention that supposed rampant police brutality and killing of black people do.

BLM had a protest today against police brutality and 'anti-black racism' even as less than 12 hours ago there were 3 shootings in the city including ever increasing numbers of drive-by shootings and highway shootings yet somehow police brutality and supposed racism against them is the biggest problem black people need to deal with right now?

They literally just arrested three16 year old boys that tried to murder two people and THAT'S not a problem they should be tackling first?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...rant-1.5703190

More shootings than ever and more underaged kids who haven't even reached adulthood who are committing serious violent crimes and murders and they think police and racism are the problem??!

30% of police calls that resulted in serious injury or death were mental health calls. Clearly this is worthy of having its own division to deal with these matters.

I agree. I would be in favor of having some mental health professionals be available to handle mental health calls so that police don't have to do it.