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Originally Posted by Textcritic
The timeline is informative, but the "other details highlighted that some might've missed" are irrelevant discussions about possible criminal records belonging to the victims, and a lot of hand-waving at Ritterhouse's actions in justifying the murders as self-defense.
What is the most ####ed up part of what happened is the fact that several men were emboldened enough to show up and counter-protest an angry mob with assault rifles and pistols. The reason two people are dead and another seriosly wounded is that people with guns were there in the first place. I remain absolutely stupefied that this continues to be acceptable—and even lauditory—behaviour in American society. If one is carrying a gun into an unstable social situation, it is negligent or idiotic of him to fail to recognize that someone else is likely to get killed. This is why "protecting businesses" looks like nothing more than a smokescreen, because I cannot accept that any adult is actually that naive.
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In the state of Wisconsin under the law they don't a protecting property law. Which I think gets highly overlooked in discussion. There is no protection or defense that allows you to use any kind of force to defend your property. If you are the owner of a business you can defend it yourself only if you are occupying the business and people have forced their way in through locked entrances and windows. The intruders have to successfully broken into your business and pose an imminent threat to your life .
Under the law the militias can't legally be there with there guns to protect anything . Under the law they can carry a weapon openly as long as theres no agenda for why they have it. It's illagal to claim to be protecting property, it's illigal for them to be out after curfew( same with the protestors to be fair) but becaise they are there with weapons and not protesting that is under Wisconsin law automatically supposed to be a charge of "causing disorderly conduct while armed".
They only legal reasons Wisconsin accepts for using a weapon is if you are in your vehicle, home or your own business and the intruders successfully breaks in and all entrances were locked .
Eg. You notice a person breaking into your car trying to steal it . You cannot legally shoot that person for trying to.steal your car. You were not occupying it so you have a duty to retreat and phone the cops instead. If you are being car jacked and they jave gotten in and pose a immediate threat to your life than the law says you can protect yourself.
The police allowing the militias there is another tool they can use to intimidate the protesters.
I'm glad the Nhl stood in Solidarity because it has allowed conversions like in this thread to take place. 2 days doesn't solve the issues but it gets things started.