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Originally Posted by ernie
The thing is you have a guy obviously carrying a gun. Yes a gun shot goes off first but there doesn’t seem to be evidence that shot was directed at Rittenhouse. He turns and a guy is lunging. He shoots. Now is it self defense on his part or is the lunging man thinking self defense against a guy with a gun with unknown intent? This is quite frankly why carrying in public doesn’t make sense to me and is indefensible (clearly I’m not American!)
Replace the gun with a guy brandishing a knife and no one is thinking the knife wielder has good things in his head and a guy lunging is a potential hero trying to disarm a guy. But a gun and and somehow it’s different. He was shot multiple times in the groin, back, hand, thigh and a graze wound to the head.
And of course the right wing really, really is ignoring something they would never ignore if the shoe was on the other foot. Like he was in illegal possession of a firearm. He also carried that over state lines (Illegal) to participate in a protest/counter protest (something the right has been saying the left does..professional troublemakers etc).
I’m hard pressed to believe he was pure of heart in this. Sure seems like he was looking for a reason to fire some shots.
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You forgot even in his home state he was not allowed to have a weapon untill he is 21. He needed someone to sponser his gun ownership license.
The self defense i can see being hard to prove beyond the obvious. The state does have a Castle doctrine amd a form of "Stand your ground" law . Neither of them would ever pertain to him regardless because he's not a Wisconsin resident . Even if he was the stand your ground law that is in Wisconsin only protects you if a person forcibly enters your vehicle, home or business. They can't be trying to get in, they need to have successfully broken into one of the 3 if your currently occupying them.
2. Under the law in Wisconsin because there was a curfew that started at 7p.m which legally anyone is violating. Under the current situation of the violence that was ongoing and the fact he wasn't part of the protests the police had all legal grounds to arrest him for disorderly conduct while being armed. Which every member of the maitias can face . You can legally open carry but you can't have an agenda when you do so E.g patrolling the streets regardless of a curfew or not.