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Originally Posted by Beatle17
See this to me is part of the problem trying to discuss what needs to be done to accomplish what the african american community is trying to accomplish. LeBron James had a big talk about what happened in Kenosha, then veered off into reading the mind of the cop "today is the day I am going to kill a guy". There is no need for that in any discussion, sorry if you disagree.
What Azure is asking, is when players such as LeBron make a large portion of his money from things in China he is connected to what is happening there also, but when questioned about it he got mad and defensive. All he had to say was the CCP has no right to cause the Genocide of the people there and move on. Nobody has said that they do not believe what is going on in the US is wrong.
A question for you as you seem to be on top of all this, do the people the other night who attacked a woman in a restaurant have the right to physically force a person to get on board with their protest (and the people doing it were a bunch of white teen agers)? This is what I mean about constructive discussion, we all know that the cops killing people has to stop but so does the crowd attacking innocent people for no reason.
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This is a difficult one. Again, I think that we have to separate Lebron James the black man with shared black community experiences, from Lebron James the superstar athlete who makes money off of endorsement deals from a multinational corporation that profits off of slavery. That's difficult, but someone can be hypocritical but still right about something. I am one of the first to tear into Lebron for his silence on China, but it has NOTHING to do with how he or other black people feel about the current situation in the United States. Period.
In the case of Lebron trying to "read the mind of the cop"- I think it is justifiable for a Black man in the United States to feel that this is in the mind of every police officer they encounter on any given day, given the ongoing experience that people of color are facing in the United States. There's been open protests against this exact form of police brutality for months, and yet here we are as it keeps on happening.
Is that speculation part of an informed discussion on the matter at hand? No probably not. Is it perfectly reasonable as an emotional response from someone who feels targeted and marginalized for the color of their skin, and has ample evidence enough to prove that case over and over again? Yes, I think so.
I am not familiar with the incident you mentioned, and I couldn't find anything recent on google (though probably because of ####ty google-fu), but without having read more into it I agree with you. There is no cause to use violence against non-aggressors in the pursuit of an end to your own violence, in my opinion.
That being said, the situation I am aware of that happened last night involved a white teenager, 17, who was an attendee of police training camp in a neighboring state, coming to "aid" the police in quelling the riots. He was illegally open carrying a high powered rifle. He shot three protestors, killing two. There are videos of the cops "thanking him" for coming and assisting them during a curfew, against the protests, before the shooting.
To me it sounds like many white people are certainly acting not as non-aggressors, but are aggressively taking the side of fascism. Does this not give you pause?