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Originally Posted by Textcritic
This feels like nit-picking to me considering how focused you are on actual and perceived draft failures while completely ignoring the rather impressive collection of later picks currently looking like potential impact NHL players.
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Who are these players? What rather impressive collection of later picks are currently looking like potential impact players?
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Originally Posted by Bingo
The scouting staff is adding players, which is good drafting, which is what you suggested isn't happening.
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Your comments on the podcast were "4th, 5th, 6th. 7th round picks that are suddenly interesting" so I took that to mean you were looking specifically at those players. To be specific to those rounds the Flames have Mangipane (2015, 6th round, 166th), Gaudreau (2011, 4th round, 104th), and TJ Brodie (2008, 4th round, 114th) from the later rounds playing for them. They also did get Ferland and Kulak out of those later rounds as well. But under Treliving's tenure they have Mangipane to show for it. When you look at the minors you can see that they are thin as hell. That is because Treliving has bled picks like crazy, but also because they are picking players from systems that give them longer development windows before they are pressed to make a signing decision. Don't get me wrong, its a good strategy for the longer shot players in the later rounds because it buys more development time, but the reality is they are long shots because they need more development time. Taking that into consideration, I don't believe we have a player there until they can step into the pros and show some dominance at the AHL level. Been bit by the hype way too many times to think otherwise now. The highs and lows from these players should give you a great deal of pause.
If this is not what I meant, okay, I'm fine with that. If you're saying that you're counting the top rounds, okay, things look a little better. But that was the emphasis you placed on the rounds and finding talent. Any ways, it was not a condemnation of anything or anyone, I just would have liked to have heard more discussion in this area to get more insight and have you identify these players that you think have the potential to step in and help this team out. I wanted to hear MORE on that topic because I'm not convinced of that fact and would have liked to have heard your reasoning behind that statement.