I don't know what it is, but both of those games look entirely terrible to me. Who wants to play as Robin or Nightwing or uhhh... Shark guy or whatever? Probably a lot of people, I guess.
Ensemble games are hit and miss for me, with many more misses than hits. I think the only one I've enjoyed is GTA V, or some of the games where you jump into another character for a small portion of the game.
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