So that's all great but I'm not exactly sure who you're arguing against..?
The point was simply that the "he's not a winner" line is always true.. until it isn't. It's a lazy line used by fans and media. It was used as a criticism against Phil Kessel until he won and it was 100%, it was used against Ovechkin and it was used against Ryan O'Reily in Buffalo and early in St Louis until that team went turbo and turned it around.
O'Reilly's dedication was in question in Buffalo, especially a month after signing a seven year deal he drunkenly smashed his truck into a Tim Horton's then fled the scene.
Let's not argue against a point no one was making.
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