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DeluxeMoustache · 08-22-2020, 04:31 PM

Whether they should keep BT or move on is a complicated question.

I would actually like to hear him answer the question about why his team has not just lost, but been humiliated two years in a row, and what needs to be done about it.

One challenge I see is that Tre has said more than once “the buck stops here”. That is great when you are using the statement to take pressure off of your team/ coaches / whatever, but it has to hold up.

If the buck stops with Tre, he needs to take responsibility for what has happened. That collapse was an embarrassment to the franchise.

So how does the buck stop with him?

One thing we do know for sure is that 13 and 23 were not effective in the post season, again. They are key parts of the core. What happened, and what do you do about it?

Gaudreau had 99 points, he has elite skill. There have been posts outlining how much Monahan has scored relative to his draft class as well. They have skill that others would kill for. So why are they ineffective in the post season?

Is it coaching?

Is it his linemates? We know Johnny has the skill, lateral mobility, shiftiness. Does Johnny need a linemate who plays a physical game, like Bennett or Lucic, to go in hard on the forecheck help create space for him?

Or is it strategy? Why does Johnny keep skating in to guys 1 on 3 and turning it over? There was a good post about their breakouts in one of the game 6 post mortems

Something needs to change, so is it that the players don’t want to what it takes to succeed, or the coaching staff can’t figure out what the players should be doing?

Or do the players just not want to do what it takes?

When 13 and 23 were moving from ELC to second contract, he also fired the coach at the time. Did that send a message to the players about their accountability that the team has paid for ever since?

I really want to hear Tre’s thorough and honest post mortem

His coaching decisions have been one disaster after another, you could argue that when he was a green GM, he basically gave his top players the opportunity to take away a message that they were more important to the franchise than the coach, and these guys are now unable to move the needle at the time of year it matters most.

The team by all accounts have a great group of guys, best room ever, and love Wardo , who empowers them. And they epically failed together.

So what went wrong? And how does it get fixed?

I can’t imagine it is easy to answer the question about whether he should stay or go, until you hear the honest post mortem. I would love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation.

But sadly that’s a conversation between him and ownership, not for people like us.

08-22-2020, 04:31 PM	#91
DeluxeMoustache Moustache Join Date: Mar 2010 Exp:	Whether they should keep BT or move on is a complicated question. I would actually like to hear him answer the question about why his team has not just lost, but been humiliated two years in a row, and what needs to be done about it. One challenge I see is that Tre has said more than once “the buck stops here”. That is great when you are using the statement to take pressure off of your team/ coaches / whatever, but it has to hold up. If the buck stops with Tre, he needs to take responsibility for what has happened. That collapse was an embarrassment to the franchise. So how does the buck stop with him? One thing we do know for sure is that 13 and 23 were not effective in the post season, again. They are key parts of the core. What happened, and what do you do about it? Gaudreau had 99 points, he has elite skill. There have been posts outlining how much Monahan has scored relative to his draft class as well. They have skill that others would kill for. So why are they ineffective in the post season? Is it coaching? Is it his linemates? We know Johnny has the skill, lateral mobility, shiftiness. Does Johnny need a linemate who plays a physical game, like Bennett or Lucic, to go in hard on the forecheck help create space for him? Or is it strategy? Why does Johnny keep skating in to guys 1 on 3 and turning it over? There was a good post about their breakouts in one of the game 6 post mortems Something needs to change, so is it that the players don’t want to what it takes to succeed, or the coaching staff can’t figure out what the players should be doing? Or do the players just not want to do what it takes? When 13 and 23 were moving from ELC to second contract, he also fired the coach at the time. Did that send a message to the players about their accountability that the team has paid for ever since? I really want to hear Tre’s thorough and honest post mortem His coaching decisions have been one disaster after another, you could argue that when he was a green GM, he basically gave his top players the opportunity to take away a message that they were more important to the franchise than the coach, and these guys are now unable to move the needle at the time of year it matters most. The team by all accounts have a great group of guys, best room ever, and love Wardo , who empowers them. And they epically failed together. So what went wrong? And how does it get fixed? I can’t imagine it is easy to answer the question about whether he should stay or go, until you hear the honest post mortem. I would love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation. But sadly that’s a conversation between him and ownership, not for people like us.