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Old 08-22-2020, 03:39 PM   #85
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Yup, heard from a good source Johnny and Mony wouldn't re-sign if Hartley was still the coach.
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You know what? I would like to circle back on this.

So in 2015-16, Johnny was just finishing his second season, where he took a major step, becoming a point per game player. The team had a challenging year, but he saw personal success and growth. Hartley appeared to trust and rely on his top line.

At this point, you have Johnny, on his ELC, and only having known one NHL coach. Two seasons ...

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I don’t see these two guys as having the career confidence and ego for this story to hang together

I will circle back on myself here and look at it from the other side.

(Thanks, chummer)

That was the year both Monny and Johnny were having their second contracts negotiated

Playing for a demanding coach, players will be more eager to look past when they are winning. However, when a team is playing for a demanding coach and losing, they eventually tune out. It has happened to others (also Cup winners) like Hitchcock, Keenan, etc.

Now these guys are RFAs, and they have agents, so what leverage do they have? Not a ton, but their agents sure would be able to dangle term / commitment to the franchise.

Add to that the concept that Tre was a pretty green GM, he was probably dealing with his first player vs. coach challenge, and add in that Bob wasn’t Tre’s guy.

I can see timing wise, with compelling event of both re-signings, that Tre would take the opportunity to make the change


So that’s it. We could have established a choice of players over coach, for the two guys who are now the face of the franchise, and its subsequent perennial embarrassment

#5 all time GM indeed
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