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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I think Treliving has been an okay GM, like most GMs he's had his good and his bad moves.
My hesitation for firing him is honestly that the ownership group doesn't really have a good track record of hiring GMs. Treliving is probably the second or third best GM in Flames history...that's really saying something.
I'd worry they'd fire Treliving only to go out and hire a guy like a Dale Tallon or something, which would be a disaster.
He's made mistakes, but all young GMs do. And really I think he's actually tried to be honest with himself, has taken accountability for his mistakes, and has tried to learn from those mistakes. Which is more than I can say for most of the "old guard" GMs who seem stubborn and unwilling to admit to an error.
So personally I'd just stick with Treliving.
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Originally Posted by Willi Plett
I also think that Treliving is constantly learning, getting more experienced, and making less mistakes and making better decisions with experience. The next days weeks and months will definitely confirm or refute that supporting comment. Does Treliving now see that this core doesn’t have “it” and will he take it apart to a significant enough level to retool it properly. Is he willing to move on from players who while dynamic and capable have not proven an ability to carry the team when it counts most.
And the real unknown? Would ownership let him do what really needs to be done anyway or are his hands half tied?
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Is he really learning though? Let's take this trade deadline for example. I think majority consensus for the team at that point is that the Flames likely would make the playoffs as a bottom seed, and be eliminated in the first round. Now as of last night, that's exactly what happened, DESPITE selling off future assets to bring in players that didn't move the needle, AND not selling on veteran players who are unlikely to be here next season and beyond (Harmonic & Brodie).
Are the Flames better off making not making long term moves, whereas if they did, they may have ended up with the exact same result in being eliminated in the first round?
I don't think Treliving has been learning based on his recent trades. He's still bringing in rental players, and giving up picks to do that, while not selling his players to be rentals for others, and getting something to work with, rather than lose them for nothing at the end of the season that didn't amount to any playoff success.
The bar has been so damn low for Flames GMs in this organization, that a ####ty job from him is considered acceptable, since it's better than what we've seen from others.