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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Lots of things I won't disagree with in your post. This point deserves some comment though, because wanting to be right is not a bad thing. Voter suppression and disenfranchisement wins. Corruption wins. Divisive, fear mongering and dishonest politics win. Filibusters and refusing to pass legislation to craft political narratives or hurt political opponents and populations that oppose you wins. Destroying educational systems and social benefits programs that build a strong electorate wins. Devout loyalty to party, even over loyalty to the laws of the country, wins. Being better at all of these things wins when there is no sense of the value of being right.
We're just waiting to see if destroying public faith in electoral process and results in order to negate the last legal method for removing a president from power will win (it has in other countries).
Winning at all costs is a great way to destroy democracy.
In the current context, I hope the Democrats make pragmatic decisions in order to win and get Trump out, but in the long run (if they succeed), I hope they govern by spending time focused on what's right instead of being focused on winning.
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I don't disagree, but you still need to want to win.
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
That's a bit of a contradiction Maritime. If the progressive wing is so small, and if AOC is so irrelevant, then what does that give ammunition to the GOP? Who would care? She is absolutely relevant.
So why be scared of that? How does highlighting your bright, diverse, young people hand the election over to the GOP? If you had a 'Future of the Party Night' and the GOP goes after that, that's more ammunition for you! For all of Obama's achivements that you listed, nobody knew who he was before he made that speech. That speech made Obama a household name. AOC already is. No contest.
You have to rally around your differences, not push them to the side. Who cares about Trump. Stop trying to pull over a few scraps that will upset your own progressive base. You want to build a base that will win elections for generations. The GOP is dying.
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Not at all. Do you disenfranchise your base to cater to a minority?
And yes Rube, the DNC gets upset if the minority of left votes 3rd party because a 3rd party vote is a vote for Trump.