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Originally Posted by GirlySports

Because they are not the majority, they should be ignored? I mocked the telephone poll above but 17% is a healthy chunk of telephone people. Imagine non-telephone people.

So you ignore the 73%?

Seriously, if the 17% were being ignored then there wouldn't be AOC or Sanders speaking at all.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

At a minimum, giving her 60 seconds, less than what was given to an actual republican, is a major problem. She's clearly one of the major voices of the progressive wing of the party, and she's proven herself quite adept at getting her point across. They love her when it's time to vote in Congress or when she's gives one of the republicans a verbal beatdown. Having very few Latino speakers at all (where the heck is Julian Castro?), is also a major issue. I'd argue having Bill Clinton there at all is a big problem too. It's really the whole boomer argument all over again. I got mine, and I'm going to ride it into the ground and not pull anyone from the next generation up, or even recognize that the party and the electorate are changing. It's a failure to think about anything but this very second, dismissing a future that might be a bit different from what has been done for so long. If the democratic party wants to survive and be relevant they need to expand their tent, or they won't have their tent anymore.

1. Republicans speaking in support of the Democrats at the DNC is a BIG deal. It shows a split in the GOP and getting their support is a big shot at the Republican Party.

Imagine if Gov. Newsome was at the RNC speaking to support Trump. Huge deal.

You take that gift 100 times out of 100.

You talk about Democrats shooting themselves in the foot. Not having Republican endorsements at the DNC would have been a shot to the head.

Also AOC isn't the only voice of the progressive wing, her mentor gave a keynote for crying out loud.

As for one of the most popular Democratic Presidents of our time who won the South handedly, having him there is a great idea.

When Democratic presidential candidates try to separate and distance themselves from Bill, it hurts them, they lose.

If the Democratic Party wants to survive they need to stick with what wins.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

AOC is also way ahead of where some dude named Obama was when he got his star-making spot at a the 2004 DNC. I seem to recall a lot of people saying his energy was appealing. Whatever happened to him? The failure of the current Democratic leadership, intentional or otherwise, is realizing that their party is shifting hard right now but ignoring it completely.

I didn't realize that AOC was editor of the Harvard Law Review, and taught Constitutional Law. I also didn't realize she was a state senator for 7 years, and that the federal seat she won she won it with 70% of the vote when it was previously held by a Republican.

Wow, AOC really has a lot more experience than I knew.

Here I thought she just did some low to mid level campaign work and then admittedly pulled off an impressive primary victory.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

There are charismatic personalities, especially people of color, who have brought forth dynamic ideas and absolutely trigger Republicans. These folks are the future of the party whether the current establishment likes it or not. And many voters want progress.

Yes, let's let Trump and the GOP make the narrative about AOC and the small percentage of the party rather than follow the polling data and momentum.

That would be shooting yourself in the foot.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Giving zero of these people any sort of real platform during a time when it's standard procedure to highlight someone gives the impression that Democrats are just nicer about being craven political aholes than Republicans. An entire night of the DNC could've been dedicated to The Future of the Party.

and hand the election over to Trump and the GOP.

You're protecting a Knight by sacrificing your King.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Instead, a rehash of ghosts past, including a reliance on those from the other side of the aisle. I mean, between John Kasich and Colin Powell and Liz Cheney and the grifters at the Lincoln Project, why would anyone on the left actually want to vote for Biden without the "must get Trump out" trope? Nah, we're going to roll out a bunch of our tired retreads and completely disregard the youth who are driving the current social movement that blends with the stated policies of our party.

I believe it was James Carville that said Republicans want to win, Democrats want to be right.

Democrats shift to focusing in what wins, and you're worried about future elections, not this one.

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Two nights in and the universally highest regard for everyone who has spoken is for a former First Lady. Prior to Hilary Clinton, all a First Lady had to do was be well-dressed and have manners. Now, a former one is about the most appealing thing they have to offer. And I don't think its a stretch to say that her husband will be the other speaker held in highest regard when its all said and done.

Whats your point? They're giving the people what they want and what appeals to them?

My God. What a concept!

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Other poor decisions they have made:

Offered up Clinton when trying to hurt Trump for his relationship with Epstein

Opted to not have a virtual convention when their candidate and party members are constantly harping on Trump's poor response to it. Instead, they postponed it and stayed with it instead of canceling it months ago, giving up that possible advantage. And now that the RNC went virtual, there is nothing to gain. Had you beaten them to the virtual punch, you would look like the leader and the party who cares about saving lives. Instead...

Tell me, if Trump wins, who gets the blame? The left for not throwing voting blue no matter who or the party for courting Republicans (the enemy) and failing to win over enough of them?

Has there been much Epstein talk? Focus is on Trump and Maxwell. Even then, it's not a lot.

The DNC convention isn't in Florida, and how many speeches and things are being done virtually?

Lastly, if Trump wins, who gets the blame?

I don't know. But giving Trump ammunition and everything he wants certainly is NOT a good strategy.