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Originally Posted by Itse
Didn't Clinton win both the working class vote and the poor white vote?
Both the GOP and the progressives love to say that the Dems have lost the working class and the poor whites, but it really isn't particularly true. It's just a narrative that fits with their purposes.
The truth is the working class isn't a particularly unified voting block. Some of them vote AOC, some of them vote Trump.
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Yes, this is a very difficult thing to measure and it depends on every voters personal situation. Usually it comes down to, are you better off now then you were four years ago personally. Not what the media or anyone else says.
One of the most dangerous things for a incumbent president or incumbent party is "more of the same". More of the same might be great for some and terrible for others. In 2016, there were people who had been unemployed for nearly two years, their 99 week unemployment benefits exhausted.
As witty said, the path to re-training is probably the better path long term, but not if you're 50 and not if you don't want to move. You live in a town where all anyone knows is to graduate high school and work in the mines or factories, generation after generation. That's a hard thing to break. And then they are called 'uneducated' on top of that, because a high school diploma is considered a failure these days. Hillary was more of the same, an Obama presidency without Obama and people had nothing to lose voting for Trump as he promised a lot. Now you can turn around and say, well, too bad, you need to move and you need to change, globalization isn't going to stop. And that's fine, but just remember, their wrong people's vote count too and they're more likely to vote our of anger.
But now Trump is the incumbent and he's is now promoting 'more of the same'. If you vote for me, you get more of this same great country, if you don't the country will go to ####. Again, is a voter better of now then they were 4 years ago? Did those umemployeds get jobs? Or are they suffering? Are people off food stamps because they got jobs or are they simply just kicked off of food stamps and dying. More of the same is double edged sword.
Itse, to me, the difference now and in 1992 is the liberal elites, The working suburban family. Clinton basically won on economics. Bush has broken a promise of not raising taxes and the Ross Perot took votes away on the right. But today, there is much more of a class divide. The suburban elites are driving the narrative, in universities and work places, that you have to be this exact certain way, this perfect citizen who is aware of everything good in the world. One false step and you're a racist or your a homophobe. The posts above are shocked where the right is going, the left, the mainstream left or the faux left, is going in a very dangerous direction of cancel culture as well. Watch how they treat anyone who even associate with someone on the right and they get fired or canceled.
This is not the world that laborers (using an old term) want to be in. Where they can't shoot this #### on a job site. Or a bunch of Mexicans are brought onto a work site and you can't even criticize them for fear of the race card. And it's not the Mexican workers fault, it's the woke management team who protects them. This is how the Democrats have lost the "blue-collar" working class. They are just fed up of having to be perfect all the time to an impossible standard, that change through no fault of their own.