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Originally Posted by Daradon
??? You shouldn't be doing good deeds with the hope of getting in heaven or because of the fear of damnnation. You should be doing them because it's the right thing to do. God or no god, saviour or no saviour.
Toil, challenge, and helping others is part of life and makes the word a better place.
Wouldn't that mean that an athiest or someone who doesn't believe in a heaven or god like yours would be an even better person for doing good deeds? There's lots of them out there. Lots of people don't need a god or religion to tel them what to do or why to do it. They do it because they are good compassionate people.
I also don't like all these comments (not just you) about 'someone' being right or 'someone' being wrong. It's assumptions like this that divide us. Besides it's more than probable we're all a little right, and we're all mostly incorrect. (Notice I didn't use the word wrong, because I don't see how beliefs should be judged wrong) It's a wonderous universe and we've barely scracthed the surface.
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Maybe you're missing the point, and maybe you're not. It's hard to tell as you're sticking to the fact that I said 'good deeds'. Fine. Let's make it personal. I was using examples, but let's make it personal.
I do good deeds all the time because it makes me feel good. I'm not about to stop doing good deeds, nor do I do them for my God necessarily. I have tried to abstain from sex, as well as intoxication, I've cleaned up my life, not for me, because I enjoy all those things, but for my God. Does not having sex make my life better overall? Ummmm... well.... So ignore the good deeds part, and let's focus on the other things Christians do for their God that they may be wasting their time on. Jehovah's Witnesses and their door knocking is an excellent example. If there really is no God, or there is one, but not the one they're praying to, they've wasted a lot of time. Or not celebrating birthdays? Birthdays are a fun time of celebration! They miss out on those. Muslims and their praying 5 times a day. They could get a lot more stuff done if they didn't have to do that, no? So ignore that 'good deeds' part, you're right, that's satisfying in it's own right. Look at the other aspects of religion.
How is it that an Athiest is partially right if there really is a God? How is it that a Christian is partially right if there is no god?
There's no God but a heaven and hell anyways? There is an afterlife but no one runs the show there? That's a scary thought!