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Originally Posted by rubecube
Lol, so apparently AOC's appearance at the DNC will be a 60-second pre-recorded video. Meanwhile, the party of pro-choice, LGBTQ rights, and the working class has scheduled a speech from a former Republican governor who introduced a heartbeat bill, was openly homophobic, and worked hard to crush unions in his home state.
The Democratic establishment is just diet-GOP at this point.
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I like AOC, while I may not agree with everything she believes I like her. That said she is still a very junior member of the party with little experience. It’s not a shock. Sanders is speaking, Warren will speak. AOC got a seat at the table with the big boys...that’s not a small thing. The progressives got a pretty good amount of stage/speech time.
The thing people seem to be missing is the senior progressive torch bearers in Warren and Sanders have had considerable influence in shaping the platform (Sanders keeping his delegates for leverage on the platform, Warren being involved with the financial reform aspects). Warren stands to be an important member of the administration if Biden were to win.
This is different from 2016. It’s not all about flashy speeches but actually winning things of substance. They have done that. It’s not everything but it also wouldn’t be everything if the torch bearers won the nomination either....
Kasich....he vetoed both heartbeat laws that came to his desk (his successor Dewine signed the one that was blocked by the courts). Now he did sign some restrictive abortion laws but he vetoed the heartbeat laws. He has said some not nice things with regards to homophobia victims...he also signed laws protecting trans workers and said the discussion in same sex marriage was over and decided. He put executive actions in place such that Ohio was one of the states where you could not discriminate based on sexual orientation (2011). He later extended that executive action to protect gender identity or expression (2018).
Guess what though? There are DNC members with the same beliefs that don’t line up with yours or mine on those topics and as long as it doesn’t enter into the platform that’s fine (Biden is personally pro-life but that’s separate from his legislation). Kasich also believes that climate change is real, wants prison reform with reduced sentences for nonviolent criminals and focus on rehabilitation, undocumented immigrants should be allowed to stay and concedes that path to citizenship may be part of that solution, and actually had a platform that was a mix of tax reduction and tax increases.
Don’t get me wrong he is a republican and believes many things I do not like. I understand the outrage on the surface but Kasich is a center-right Republican overall and that is a group that can be swayed to move from Trump. That’s the point. If the progressive left can’t be bothered to vote because of that well then they’ve completely lost site of the war they are fighting and the battles they have won this cycle will go for naught, likely never to happen again for a very long time.
And really when all is said and done the way the system is supposed to work is to force governance from the middle.