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Originally Posted by Red
I get all that and in no way am I painting the Dems as great and I realize that we dont (most of us) exactly get to vote anyway. I am just puzzled how a person that wants Trump defeated keeps slamming his only competition. It seems illogical to me.
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I mean I posted why literally yesterday.
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Originally Posted by rubecube
I want people to hold him accountable for who he has been and how he's contributed to the mess that is the current political landscape. I want people to vote for him, but go into his administration with their eyes open and hold his feet to the fire as soon as he starts falling back on old habits.
My worry is that people continue to see Trump as the disease and not the symptom of greater issues, to which Biden has been a tremendous contributor to. This is exemplified by the revisionist history of the Bush administration (and embrace of neocon shills) who caused far more catastrophic damage than Trump has.
Yes, it'll be nice to have a president who doesn't say the quiet parts loud, but this whole "return to normal" ideation really ignores the fact that the "normal" of 2008 - 2016 was still really ####ty for millions of people and we need someone to do better than normal if we want to avoid 4-8 years of even more extreme (and probably more competent) fascism in 2024 or 2028.
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