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Old 08-06-2020, 11:03 PM   #1966
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Originally Posted by wittynickname View Post
Trump is truly terrible, there's no question, and had he been handed a 9/11 the level of butchering would have been astronomical, but we really need to stop letting the awfulness of Trump make us forget how atrocious the GWB administration was. Trump has been horrible with regards to domestic issues, and especially attacking democratic norms (not the party, the political system) and making a mockery of the office of the Presidency.

But he hasn't yet committed war crimes. Bush and company did. Bush's administration lied and got us into unwinnable wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Bush was an unmitigated disaster.
While not "war crimes", theres a great body of evidence for crimes against humanity.

Putting Refugees in cages.
Implicitly endorsing chinese concentration camps
Turning a blind eye to hit orders against his own citizens
Ordering his own military to take actions against his own citizens
Re-envigorating the death penalty.......
Assasinatiing World Leaders to prove a point.
Dropping big bombs on airports because they have a cool name.

Not start drawing direct comparisons between different autrocities, but Trump has been equally terrible in his conduct with regards to human rights, and has revealled himself to be far far far far far far far less competitent than anyone imaginable in this role, all while doing much more damage to the norms that have held these actions a bay for the past 70 years.

I think its fair to remind everyone that Bush, Regan, Nixon... were all terrible, and ever since Goldwater the GOP has failed to offer a vision of a better America. But we shouldn't compare any of these people to Trump, they took the job seriously.

edit: its hard to remember everything with Trump we could probably keep adding, without getting into the ways he is using public office to enrich himself.
Possible involvement with a child sex trafficing ring.

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