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Originally Posted by Azure
Actually Looger, as I see it, you're advocating the right for these suicide bombers to blow themselves up in Israeli territory, because their homes were taken away from them, or because Israel receives support for the US, or because Israel did something wrong in the first place.
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really? that's interesting. tell me what else i think!
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Two wrongs do not make a right, and I GUARANTEE, as long as the Arab countries around Israel have the mindset of destroying a LEGAL, UN-ordained nation, peace will never become a reality.
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great, two wrongs don't make a right. so what. i cannot blame people that fight back. never in a million years. not ever.
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The stupidity of the fundamental groups opposing Israel, is far greater then the stupidity of these 'Zionists.'
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stupidity comes in bunches. the anger that fuels fundamentalism comes from the actions of zionism.
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i could direct you to
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/ or to rabbi lerner or the yearly (just happened 2 weeks ago) 10,000s of jews that protest israel's existence in new york.
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Originally Posted by Azure
Plus, Israel took control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, while defending its existence from the Arab nations around them? After the UN ordained Israel as a legal, and sovereign nation, why couldn't the nations around Israel accept that? Why did they declare war?
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if you think this started in 1948, i can see why you are having trouble here. this started in 1897. that's when war was declared on the arabs living in palestine. situations like that usually work themselves out but the balfour declaration of 1917 got the united states into the war on the side of england, who thus signed over palestine to the zionists.
england appointed a king to speak for all arabs and yelled at him until he signed.
most jewish settlers were honestly there to 'make the desert bloom' and i'm fairly certain from reading up on it that they truly wanted peace with their neighbours.
trouble was, there were violent extremist paramilitary terror organizations that cleared villages, blew crap up, and began a reign of terror on the palestinian arabs.
this is all WAY before palestinian arabs started fighting back, WAY before the grand mufti of jerusalem (a friend of hitler's) started directing reprisals, WAY before - 1948.
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There are more then a million Arabs living as free citizens within Israel. They are even part of the political process. Israel accepts them, as a people, and as a government.
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true. in fact a friend of mine married one of them.
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The hatred and stupidity on one side, outweighs the recklessness on the other side. And as long as there is hatred and calls such as those from the President of Iran to get rid of Israel, there will never be peace.
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that ahmedenijad quote is not even close to correct, it amazes me that crap has to be made up in order to demonize iran when it's supposed to be some mad-dog rogue state.