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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
I think the thing that annoys me the most about the "Centrists are responsible for Trump, so stop running centrists" argument is it's simply not true. Obama cause Trump, period. If Hillary won the nomination in 2008 and beat McCain, Trump never happens, and I think that's pretty much guaranteed. A black man becoming President simply sent a good portion of White America into a prolonged meltdown. It's not because of 40 years of neoliberal/neoconservative/neofromthematrix policies. It's really as simple as a black man got the top job. I can only imagine what will happen if a black progressive becomes President. Probably secession.
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While this is true, how many people who are angry about a Black man being President are ever a hope to vote Democrat? Multicultural America is protesting for actual government reform. White America is seeing that as a threat to them. The nomination of Biden, from a progressives perspective, sides more with the government status quo than anything else. It's not exactly a reason to be excited. No reform will happen. Massive corporate tax shelters will still be a thing. Universal healthcare will not happen. Meaningful police reform will be laughed out of the room. Incarceration rates will continue as usual. And in the end, the poor will remain purposefully disenfranchised. Because he's never said anything to contradict any of that.
The only thing it's inspiring is a bunch of people like me to seriously consider going into government to try and make real change. Which I guess is nice. But it'd be nice to feel like people who agree with, well basically the rest of the "developed" world, are not just already there, but have a meaningful voice in the conversation. Preferably THE voice in the conversation. Instead we get stories of Cornpop and the brilliant idea of shooting suspected criminals in the legs instead of the chest. Thumbs up Big Joe. Real strong stance there. Yes, he is the best chance to beat Trump, but that in itself is messed up. Its exactly the problem. Trump is NOT the problem with the US. He is the nasty, disgusting loogie America's smoker's lung is coughing up. But Biden is just another pack of cigarettes. I can't even call him a nicotine patch. America needs to go cold turkey on the mixing of money and politics (we all do really, but this is the American politics thread). THAT's the real problem. Biden's not going to fix that. Why would he? It's the reason he's even in this position in the first place. Does anyone think he's going to turn on his big dollar donors and go "hey so actually, we're going to tax you guys, you know, properly."? Or turn on police unions and actually call for meaningful justice reform? Why? Those are not things getting him elected. But they are irrefutably things the country needs.
I hope if he wins, he can listen to members of congress that are actually going to, you know, LIVE for the next 20-30 years, and not just continue to perpetuate the system that resulted in his nomination. But why would he do that? Maybe as some grand, riding off into the sunset, sort of I'm to old to GAF legacy, but I doubt it.