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Originally Posted by TorqueDog
Keep in mind this is a country that has enough guns to arm every man, woman, and child, then arm every man, woman, and child in Canada almost two times over.
At some point, the government either reins in the police and stops them from doing this to innocent civilians, or people will eventually start to fight back.
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Keep in mind that most of those guns are in the hands of people who seem to want this to be happening. In fact, I would put money on these unmarked "officers" being largely made up of those nutjobs. They don't want freedom, they want personal power and authority over others. It's all kinds of backwards, but that's where we are at. Tyranny is universal healthcare, and freedom is protesters being ripped from the street and thrown into unmarked vans.
I agree, logical conclusion is violence only escalates until major things start to happen. They are actually creating a REAL Antifa (there are definitely GOP members who know this and are hoping for it, so they can use it against the Dems). A real militant sect of protesters, because that's all they feel they can do. When peaceful protest is met with what we're seeing, what other options are there? We can hope nothing too crazy (we've already passed that point in my personal opinion) happens before the election and things can settle out, but I have zero faith in anything changing for the better under Biden. I mean, it'll be better because he's a human person of relatively high intelligence and he won't be purposely stoking violence, but as far as the stuff people are wanting/needing here (police reform, universal healthcare, tax reform), little chance he ends up changing any of that stuff. AND the people enabling Trump are still there with their idiot ideas.
I had a haunting conversation with a buddy of mine from Russia during the 2016 election. Putin wins obviously and so I ask him "man, so everyone knows this is BS right?" "Yeah, a small portion of people are big for Putin, but most know it's a joke." "So why isn't there a bigger stink about it?" "Because not enough people's lives bad enough to actually put their life on the line to make a difference. Most people have their comforts (shelter, warmth, security, entertainment, etc..) and, while they agree the corruption is bad, are they going to put themselves in front of a bullet to make change? No."
And that's when I realized the evil genius of what Putin is doing, and I'm sure what he's told Donny to do as well. And it's playing out here. Who in that crowd actually feels like their life is worth getting between that person and "police"? If it wasn't for the pandemic and a bunch of people who would otherwise be working, would these protests be what they are? Probably not. And even with millions of people marching in the streets for months at a time, is anything actually changing? Will it? Maybe eventually. It's much more likely that militant protesters begin to actually rise up, fight back, and get squashed by the government power as they always have been. Because even people who agree with their message, won't agree with use of force. But the opposite is not true. People who agree with what the government is doing here WANT use of force and will sign up so they can personally use it against "leftist insurgents" or whatever.
It's a sad state of despair really. I have hope that things can end up getting resolved peacefully, but history doesn't exactly have our backs on that one. History has given us government sponsored suppression and murder of anyone who challenges status quo, basically the world over. So who's willing to submit themselves to that possibility? Enough to make change? Millions are marching in the street and there's STILL not going to be any fundamental change on this until people like both Trump AND Biden are gone. It's nice to think these people will just die away, but people like Matt Gaetz and Stephen Miller still exist are relatively young.
...maybe I don't actually have hope.