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Old 07-27-2020, 09:58 AM   #621
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Originally Posted by ricardodw View Post
Not at all.

But trying to identify a good or better team by shots-based stats is not valid.

The Oilers and Islanders were great teams in the day and they were confident in Fuhr and Billy Smith stopping the shots that they need to win.

Teams with confidence in their goalie will play a different possession game.

For the Oilers a hard save by Fuhr was the start of a scoring chance for them.

I am just using Oilers as an example of an unarguable great team.

The Hartley Flames worked the same way without the future HOFers in the lineup. They counted on Hiller and Ramo to make some saves and generate offense from the defense zone and the goalie doing his job.

Bad possession stats were a result of playing a system that was most successful for the team.

No one is going to argue that the Oilers could have been even better if they focused on shutting down shots against.
Don't agree.

First off a stat like xGF% is considerably better than just shots on goal. It's not even close.

Second, you're naming some examples on a weak stat. If there was xGF% back then you'd see the Oilers were getting out shot, but when they countered with odd man rushes and late arriving defensemen their high danger chances would be large, and with that xGF% also strongly positive.

Getting out shot isn't a big deal if you have the talent to create more high danger chances for than against.

The Jets five on five are the fourth worst team in shot splits, and worst team in xGF%.

That says they get outplayed.
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