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AustinL_NHL · 07-25-2020, 08:31 PM

I swear, some people truly do their best to ignore analytics or the point of analytics.

As a team, it is infinitely better to be analytically great than not, but just because a team is great in most analytical categories doesn't necessarily mean that team is necessarily gonna be a great team.

You still need talent.

This is one thing people who hate analytics never seem to understand. They see these analytically great players and/or teams and think that just because the results don't match the analytics that analytics have no value, which is just absolutely false.

Of course, it's much better and more valuable to your team if you're constantly out-shooting and out-chancing your opponents, but if you don't have the talent to finish your chances, then your results aren't going to match your xGF.

This is why you always see incredible shooters like Laine, Ovechkin, Monahan, etc... outperforming their ixGF and also why you always see incredible skaters like McDavid, Byron, Athanasiou, etc... outperforming their ixGF.

So, in short: while a team like the Kings might have great scoring chance rates & xGF analytical stats that are among the very best in the NHL, they just don't have the talent on their roster to actually produce those results. So basically, they're being coached great but they just don't have the talent.

A team with 18 McDavid's and analytical stats like the Kings would completely dominate the NHL and score an infinite amount of goals, whereas a team with 18 McDavid's and analytical stats like the Jets would still dominate the NHL due to the talent of the team, but would struggle mightily and get destroyed against the McDavid's with Hurricanes analytics if put head to head in a Best of 7.

When it comes to the Jets, they're truly a horrible team 5v5, but along with having some elite scoring talent upfront, they also have Hellebuyck who played like a total God this season saving their a** night in and night out. Don't know what's so hard to understand.

You need a solid mix of great analytics AND talent on the team.

Hope that helps.

07-25-2020, 08:31 PM	#577
AustinL_NHL #1 Goaltender Join Date: Sep 2017 Exp:	I swear, some people truly do their best to ignore analytics or the point of analytics. As a team, it is infinitely better to be analytically great than not, but just because a team is great in most analytical categories doesn't necessarily mean that team is necessarily gonna be a great team. You still need talent. This is one thing people who hate analytics never seem to understand. They see these analytically great players and/or teams and think that just because the results don't match the analytics that analytics have no value, which is just absolutely false. Of course, it's much better and more valuable to your team if you're constantly out-shooting and out-chancing your opponents, but if you don't have the talent to finish your chances, then your results aren't going to match your xGF. This is why you always see incredible shooters like Laine, Ovechkin, Monahan, etc... outperforming their ixGF and also why you always see incredible skaters like McDavid, Byron, Athanasiou, etc... outperforming their ixGF. So, in short: while a team like the Kings might have great scoring chance rates & xGF analytical stats that are among the very best in the NHL, they just don't have the talent on their roster to actually produce those results. So basically, they're being coached great but they just don't have the talent. A team with 18 McDavid's and analytical stats like the Kings would completely dominate the NHL and score an infinite amount of goals, whereas a team with 18 McDavid's and analytical stats like the Jets would still dominate the NHL due to the talent of the team, but would struggle mightily and get destroyed against the McDavid's with Hurricanes analytics if put head to head in a Best of 7. When it comes to the Jets, they're truly a horrible team 5v5, but along with having some elite scoring talent upfront, they also have Hellebuyck who played like a total God this season saving their a** night in and night out. Don't know what's so hard to understand. You need a solid mix of great analytics AND talent on the team. Hope that helps.