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Originally Posted by Monahammer
Good cherry pick on my quote, the next day I posted that once I had thought of the trade more I actually really liked it. But, I will take the loss here and admit my hair wasn't blown back from the get go.
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Wasn't cherry picked. That was a contemporaneous post that gauged your enthusiasm for the trade. Nothing sneaky or underhanded, just a review of what you felt at the time. And don't feel bad, a lot of people didn't have their hair blown back and it took a lot of time for this trade to grow on people. I wasn't thrilled because we gave up the best asset and the best future player. It turned out good though because Treliving got some great value in contract negotiations.
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Voracek's contract has 4 more years on it- you can't offset that type of load over 4 years on two ELCs that are almost due for renegotiation with players you would simultaneously have to hope will deserve more money than we will be able to pay them. How would you fit a frost or myers extension into a relatively stagnant cap? To me it means definitely not signing Hall, or running a horribly weak bottom 6/ bottom pairing.
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You have to work the problem and see where other contracts come off the books to help out and make moves to free up space as needed. As I suggested, maybe the Flames eat half of Lucic's deal and entice someone to take the cap hit, but pay less on the contract. Lots of teams out there that have shown a propensity to do that. Ryan's $3.125M contract comes off the books in 21-22. Then you have $2.66M coming off the books in 22-23 from Brouwer and Stone's contract mistakes, when Frost's contract is up. Bridge deal covered. The only UFA of concerns during this period are Dube and Valimaki, which will be a bridge contracts at worst. The Flames are actually well positioned to take a good three to four year run at things.
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I bolded the part of your proposition, and your larger strategy, that I disagree with. I think trading Gaudreau changes the window you've identified, and instead matches the new window to whatever the best portion of the Hall contract is, with a caveat that the real central core player is Tkachuk and you're looking to build around him at all times no matter what.
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No, gaining Hall and trading Gaudreau enhances that window. If they do their trades correctly they have more quality assets in the line up to win with. The window closes as Giordano begins to suffer the effects of time and as contracts for Monahan, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Backlund, and Hanafin expire. That's the chunk of your team that going to cause a retool or rebuild. As those contracts come due and become more expensive, either causing a sell off of players or players just leaving, the window snaps shut.