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Originally Posted by Bingo
Man there's a lot anger in this discussion.
I'm with Jiri, not sure why people have to denigrate, ignore, or generalize any opinions that are counter to their own.
Good to see some hockey passion again though after four months of chaos.
Now the poll ... part of me says run off, but then there aren't a lot of votes in the other camps to change the overall vote. Thoughts?
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I didn't denigrate anything. He got 10% of first place votes against Fletcher! Then wins second place in a landslide when you have a GM sitting there who led our team to it's best 5 year stretch since 87-91. Our most memorable year since 89. What has Treliving done? Really? If anything the story isn't yet complete so he almost shouldn't even be there. There's still time to rise above Sutter, but as of now I just don't see it. I see the arguments for BT but I dont feel they are strong enough. It's a results oriented business and Sutter produced better, more consistent results. That's a fact and it would've driven my vote had I bothered. Didnt notice the Fletcher vote until later but when I saw BT dominating Sutter, I didnt bother voting. I love the debate though.
It's funny, Sutter signed some solid deals too, but no one talks about those. Kipper's 6 year contract was great. Phaneuf's deal was good before his hip went. Tanguay. Glencross. Bourque. Bouwmeester. Regehr. Ference. Sarich. Langkow. Huselius. Even Iginla who was basically the best player in hockey was retained for 10 years worth of contracts by Sutter.
When I say free pass, I'm referring to the fact that he recieved 10% of first place votes. You need to give him a free pass to justify that. If you're going to hold Sutter accountable for his faults, BT has those too but they didn't impact the vote. That's what I mean. He gets like 4x the votes for 2nd that Sutter got. That's a free pass. Realistically it should've been way closer when you actually factor in the measurables. Couldn't even snag 3rd spot. I think there is a heavy anti-Sutter bias at play. I will admit I'm biased against Tre but I'm not sure people would admit their anti-Sutter bias.